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Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get?
by Mike Drew 02 Aug '25

02 Aug '25

Ben, Normally one sees both headlights shaking, which is caused by a poor interface between the gear on the metal bar to which the buckets are attached, and the gear in the ‘transmission’ on the headlight motor. Your problem sounds different. Raise the headlights, then see if you can move the offending headlight bucket around. If so. It’s easy to fix. It’s got four studs in the bottom which allows it to be bolted to metal pads welded to the car that runs across the front of the car. Raise the right side corner and remove the front wheels a few sheetmetal screws secure an access panel; lower the headlights to ensure the proper positioning of the bucket within the opening in the fender, reach inside with a 10mm socket and tighten the loose nuts. Let us know if that is the problem. I suppose it could also be possible that the headlight itself is loose within the bucket? That’s a different fix though…. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Aug 2, 2025, at 07:47, Ben Roper via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Hello and good morning everyone, I was hoping I could get some help in addressing a headlight bucket shake I am experiencing. It is only the passenger side headlight, but it rattles around a bit whether up or down. What fixes are there for this issue and how involved is the process? I have never worked on pop up headlights before. Also, I have finally been approved as a user on the forum, so I can post there if that is a better option. > > -Ben > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 31, 2025, at 6:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> In that case you can get one from Wilkinson, he’s out on medical and >> will be back in a couple weeks…. >> >> Although alternatively your personal list “retired old geezers seem to >> lose the ability use Google search” substitute shopping assistant >> suggests >> >> [1]socalautoparts.com >> [2][0UIwCs3tu1twyh6YDjLLHPol7EfzpPOW8+Kv8oIe+1lLl9iV0R0jE34Dsuh0CJ5TPv5 >> 5Sj7B6mdLei020fNiFi63di2HsjvkKM5UPFHNvi+i5wg41vtnOO7drcrOi2K1EMoTWbAFas >> EvNevw+1onfhXdCSCvIVg3gbIaX1Dc1YARSyirnFrxT37vKPdxgCftJn8PEy9lyVIzKAUNU >> L5ZIRAGb741oCfZVnnJgkwVSy2QWiC1QGqB1AKpBVILpBZILZBaILVAaoGwBf4HzXi6e+xf >> Nt0AAAAASUVORK5CYII=] >> >> Or if in a rush you can do what I did and run down to an auto parts >> store and grab a 17mm Allen key, cut a portion off the long side and >> insert in a 17mm socket or ring wrench. You can make multiples from one >> Allen key and keep them in any orifice of your choice and they’ll work >> as long as you have a 17mm wrench or socket on hand! >> >> Julian >> >> On Jul 31, 2025, at 17:36, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Except it needs to be a 3/8” drive to have clearance on the tide of the >> ZF. A ½” drive is too big. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike Thomas >> >> >> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 5:03 PM >> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms(a)live.com>; Mike & Elizabeth >> <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' >> <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to >> get? >> >> >> Readily available at your local corner Amazon store.... >> >> [3]Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket >> >> Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket >> >> [4]www.amazon.com >> >> Julian >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >> From: Mike Reilly <[5]reillyms(a)live.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:59 PM >> To: Mike & Elizabeth <[6]mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' >> <[7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Cc: Detomaso Email List <[8]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? >> >> >> Mike, I believe they are the same as used in old VW Beetles etc. I >> don’t remember them being too hard to find. Maybe search for a VW >> version on Amazon or auto parts stores? >> Get Outlook for iOS<[9]https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mike & Elizabeth <[10]mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:25:17 PM >> To: 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <[11]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? >> Where can I get one of the 17m hex sockets for the ZF drain and fill >> plugs? >> Thanks >> Mike Thomas >> >> References >> >> Visible links: >> 1. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi… >> 2. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi… >> 3. https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-15617-Drive-Socket/dp/B004W81LPY/ref=sr_… >> 4. http://www.amazon.com/ >> 5. mailto:reillyms@live.com >> 6. mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com >> 7. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com >> 8. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com >> 9. https://aka.ms/o0ukef >> 10. mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com >> 11. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com >> >> Hidden links: >> 13. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi… >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Panteras at Mecum Monterey
by Mike Drew 02 Aug '25

02 Aug '25

Guys, Below are the links to the four Panteras consigned to Mecum Monterey 2025: 1987 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S (Lot S84.1) https://www.mecum.com/lots/1152730/1987-detomaso-pantera-gt5-s/?aa_id=70627… 1971 DeTomaso Pantera (Lot S16) https://www.mecum.com/lots/1148669/1971-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=695465-0 1972 DeTomaso Pantera (Lot F108) https://www.mecum.com/lots/1151994/1972-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=704246-0 1974 DeTomaso Pantera Custom Coupe (Lot F78) https://www.mecum.com/lots/1147912/1974-detomaso-pantera-custom-coupe/?aa_i… I find the estimates curious. I personally think the pushbutton car is among the more valuable of the four. In two weeks we will learn if I’m right or not? Mike Sent from my iPhone Guys, Below are the links to the four Panteras consigned to Mecum Monterey 2025: 1987 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S (Lot S84.1) [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/1152730/1987-detomaso-pantera-gt5-s/?aa_i d=706275-0 1971 DeTomaso Pantera (Lot S16) [2]https://www.mecum.com/lots/1148669/1971-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=6954 65-0 1972 DeTomaso Pantera (Lot F108) [3]https://www.mecum.com/lots/1151994/1972-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=7042 46-0 1974 DeTomaso Pantera Custom Coupe (Lot F78) [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/1147912/1974-detomaso-pantera-custom-coup e/?aa_id=696222-0 I find the estimates curious. I personally think the pushbutton car is among the more valuable of the four. In two weeks we will learn if I’m right or not? Mike Sent from my iPhone References 1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/1152730/1987-detomaso-pantera-gt5-s/?aa_id=70627… 2. https://www.mecum.com/lots/1148669/1971-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=695465-0 3. https://www.mecum.com/lots/1151994/1972-detomaso-pantera/?aa_id=704246-0 4. https://www.mecum.com/lots/1147912/1974-detomaso-pantera-custom-coupe/?aa_i…

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17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get?
by Mike & Elizabeth 01 Aug '25

01 Aug '25

Where can I get one of the 17m hex sockets for the ZF drain and fill plugs? Thanks Mike Thomas Where can I get one of the 17m hex sockets for the ZF drain and fill plugs? Thanks Mike Thomas

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Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get?
by Julian Kift 01 Aug '25

01 Aug '25

In that case you can get one from Wilkinson, he’s out on medical and will be back in a couple weeks…. Although alternatively your personal list “retired old geezers seem to lose the ability use Google search” substitute shopping assistant suggests <https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi…> socalautoparts.com<https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi…> [X]<https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi…> Or if in a rush you can do what I did and run down to an auto parts store and grab a 17mm Allen key, cut a portion off the long side and insert in a 17mm socket or ring wrench. You can make multiples from one Allen key and keep them in any orifice of your choice and they’ll work as long as you have a 17mm wrench or socket on hand! Julian On Jul 31, 2025, at 17:36, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com> wrote: Except it needs to be a 3/8” drive to have clearance on the tide of the ZF. A ½” drive is too big. Thanks Mike Thomas From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 5:03 PM To: Mike Reilly <reillyms(a)live.com>; Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Readily available at your local corner Amazon store.... Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket<https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-15617-Drive-Socket/dp/B004W81LPY/ref=sr_…> Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket www.amazon.com<http://www.amazon.com> Julian ________________________________ From: Mike Reilly <reillyms(a)live.com<mailto:reillyms@live.com>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:59 PM To: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com<mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com>>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Mike, I believe they are the same as used in old VW Beetles etc. I don’t remember them being too hard to find. Maybe search for a VW version on Amazon or auto parts stores? Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com<mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:25:17 PM To: 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Where can I get one of the 17m hex sockets for the ZF drain and fill plugs? Thanks Mike Thomas In that case you can get one from Wilkinson, he’s out on medical and will be back in a couple weeks…. Although alternatively your personal list “retired old geezers seem to lose the ability use Google search” substitute shopping assistant suggests [1]socalautoparts.com [2][0UIwCs3tu1twyh6YDjLLHPol7EfzpPOW8+Kv8oIe+1lLl9iV0R0jE34Dsuh0CJ5TPv5 5Sj7B6mdLei020fNiFi63di2HsjvkKM5UPFHNvi+i5wg41vtnOO7drcrOi2K1EMoTWbAFas EvNevw+1onfhXdCSCvIVg3gbIaX1Dc1YARSyirnFrxT37vKPdxgCftJn8PEy9lyVIzKAUNU L5ZIRAGb741oCfZVnnJgkwVSy2QWiC1QGqB1AKpBVILpBZILZBaILVAaoGwBf4HzXi6e+xf Nt0AAAAASUVORK5CYII=] Or if in a rush you can do what I did and run down to an auto parts store and grab a 17mm Allen key, cut a portion off the long side and insert in a 17mm socket or ring wrench. You can make multiples from one Allen key and keep them in any orifice of your choice and they’ll work as long as you have a 17mm wrench or socket on hand! Julian On Jul 31, 2025, at 17:36, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com> wrote: Except it needs to be a 3/8” drive to have clearance on the tide of the ZF. A ½” drive is too big. Thanks Mike Thomas From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 5:03 PM To: Mike Reilly <reillyms(a)live.com>; Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Readily available at your local corner Amazon store.... [3]Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket Amazon.com: Titan 15617 1/2-Inch Drive x 17mm Hex Bit Socket [4]www.amazon.com Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: Mike Reilly <[5]reillyms(a)live.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:59 PM To: Mike & Elizabeth <[6]mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <[7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Cc: Detomaso Email List <[8]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Mike, I believe they are the same as used in old VW Beetles etc. I don’t remember them being too hard to find. Maybe search for a VW version on Amazon or auto parts stores? Get Outlook for iOS<[9]https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Mike & Elizabeth <[10]mbefthomas2(a)gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:25:17 PM To: 'DeTomaso Email Forum' <[11]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] 17m Hex ZF drain/fill plug tool - where to get? Where can I get one of the 17m hex sockets for the ZF drain and fill plugs? Thanks Mike Thomas References Visible links: 1. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi… 2. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi… 3. https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-15617-Drive-Socket/dp/B004W81LPY/ref=sr_… 4. http://www.amazon.com/ 5. mailto:reillyms@live.com 6. mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com 7. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 8. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com 9. https://aka.ms/o0ukef 10. mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com 11. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Hidden links: 13. https://socalautoparts.com/product/socket-17mm-allen-3-8in-drive-transmissi…

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Pantera Engine Goes IN! (But the Brakes Still Hate Me) - DeTomaso Pantera
by Mike Drew 31 Jul '25

31 Jul '25

All, Latest update from Jack in England…. maxresdefault.jpg [1]Pantera Engine Goes IN! (But the Brakes Still Hate Me) - DeTomaso Pantera [2]youtu.be Mike Sent from my iPad References Visible links: 1. https://youtu.be/F_G_pFc5C00?si=PMO8Jov1fzhOz2NX 2. https://youtu.be/F_G_pFc5C00?si=PMO8Jov1fzhOz2NX Hidden links: 4. https://youtu.be/F_G_pFc5C00?si=PMO8Jov1fzhOz2NX

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Back on
by Forest Goodhart 31 Jul '25

31 Jul '25

It seems I am now back on the list. It seems I am now back on the list.

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Any ‘19-‘20 Bullitt owners on list?
by Larry Finch 31 Jul '25

31 Jul '25

All, I am casually shopping for a 2019/2020 Bullitt Mustang. Should you be a current or previous owner and would like to provide some insight and guidance, please reach out to me. TIA, Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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Pantera Chassis Wanted
by Corey Price 29 Jul '25

29 Jul '25

All, I'm (casually) looking for a bare Pantera chassis, preferably with doors. It can be damaged or rusty but poor repairs are not what I want. Please send me an email if you know of one that is reasonable. Rust is okay. Must have a title or be able to get a title. I have one lead I'm considering. Looking for more if there are some out there. Thanks, Corey

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Drivers side rear quarter window trim
by Asa Jay Laughton 29 Jul '25

29 Jul '25

Hi all, I am searching for the quarter window trim for the glass next to the gill on the driver side. Does anyone have any they are willing to part with? Reasonable cost is okay. Thank you, Asa Jay MSgT, USAFR, Retired “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.” Ronald Reagan Hi all, I am searching for the quarter window trim for the glass next to the gill on the driver side. Does anyone have any they are willing to part with? Reasonable cost is okay. Thank you, Asa Jay MSgT, USAFR, Retired “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.” Ronald Reagan

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Two happy Pantera buddies discussing their new car…
by Mike Drew 29 Jul '25

29 Jul '25

…and the Pantera even gets a shoutout partway through (Jim has repeatedly told me that his Pantera is literally his favorite car now…) maxresdefault.jpg [1]Jay Leno's 2025 Mustang GTD | Jay Leno's Garage [2]youtu.be Mike Sent from my iPad References Visible links: 1. https://youtu.be/e80GvN2OcTM 2. https://youtu.be/e80GvN2OcTM Hidden links: 4. https://youtu.be/e80GvN2OcTM

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