Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur?
Roland, since even before MS was elected, he has been threatening members with lawsuits apparently as a form of intimidation. His recentA comments directly state he intends to destroy POCA as an organization, I assume for his own pleasure or personal gain. I was not present on the call and did not hear the context of such a ban, but if any one person's actions were to not warrant such an outcome of being banned, what other behavior would have to take place before it would reach that level? That is an open question for everybody to decide personally.
Is it more civil to degrade and intimidate in order to get others to quit or to set standards for expected behavior and let those standards apply to all members? The
fracture the club which is what has been happening the past 7 months.
MS added me to his list of people to sueA along the way as I was called a "Backstabbing Motherf$!@er". I can live with those petty threats, I just choose not to.A Setting standards of decency that do not allow bullying and
just one opinion.
On Aug 12, 2016 3:59 AM, "Roland" <[1]willibillie@live.de> wrote: > > First of all, i don't like the actions MS did ! > But banning MS for life? Isn't banning for life a relict from the dark age? What about his supporters? Send them out with a sign "I'm guilty" ? MS was voted by many for his promisises making Poca great again ( didn't i hear
Are they ashamed, for what he has done? No ! I haven't heard of one ! > > Roland > > > Am 11.08.2016 um 22:42 schrieb Ed Mendez <[2]edducati@mac.com>: > > > >A A He should have used PST, because Joe lives in AZ where they have no > >A A DST. At the moment AZ time and CA time are the same. > > > >A A Sorry > > > >A A It lasted until 7.58, but it was a great meeting, it was so much less > >A A tense. > >A A In a nutshell. > >A A Bob publicly announced and made a commitment that we will not be > >A A returning to
keeping > >A A finances and BOD meetings open, etc. > >A A Waiting 1 week on Mike Burnett for a decision on his VP position > >A A Board appointments: > >A A Les is Past President > >A A Mike H is Profiles > >A A Jack D is Newsletter > A A Josette is Store manager (non-board) > >A A Talked about
> >A A Talked about banning MS for life. > A A Ed > >
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Another issue may be if Michael stays with the club, does he then become past President and still has a seat on the Board?? Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 8/12/16, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? To: "Rob Dumoulin" <rob@dumoulins.net>, "Roland" <willibillie@live.de>, "Pantera Mail List" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Friday, August 12, 2016, 5:27 AM I think a ban is the sign of a healthy club. It¹s no different than having a bouncer throw someone out of a club when they cause problems. I don¹t know about the ³for life² part, though. The ban should be written into the bylaws. It should include the conditions, a BOD vote, a term - like banned for X years, and maybe banned from elections for X years vs. banned as a member. On 8/12/16, 7:12 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Rob Dumoulin" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: third option is to allow toxic behavior to threats seems like a good idea to me, but I am this very often lataly) What about his voters? pre-2016 BOD ways, keeping all the MS changes, the store and the website this list grant license to the list to forward any
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Good question but since he was removed by action of the board, I don't think he qualifies for a seat. I'm sure the POCA board will not allow it. The whole thing was very sad and uncomfortable and if there is peace now, that's good. Im sure the board is ecstatic to have the total saying in all issues again. Sent from Effie's iPad
On Aug 12, 2016, at 12:55 PM, marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Another issue may be if Michael stays with the club, does he then become past President and still has a seat on the Board??
Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 8/12/16, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? To: "Rob Dumoulin" <rob@dumoulins.net>, "Roland" <willibillie@live.de>, "Pantera Mail List" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Friday, August 12, 2016, 5:27 AM
I think a ban is the sign of a healthy club.
It¹s no different than having a bouncer throw someone out of a club when they cause problems.
I don¹t know about the ³for life² part, though. The ban should be written into the bylaws. It should include the conditions, a BOD vote, a term - like banned for X years, and maybe banned from elections for X years vs. banned as a member.
On 8/12/16, 7:12 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Rob Dumoulin" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
Roland, since even before MS was elected, he has been threatening members with lawsuits apparently as a form of intimidation. His recentA comments directly state he intends to destroy POCA as an organization, I assume for his own pleasure or personal gain. I was not present on the call and did not hear the context of such a ban, but if any one person's actions were to not warrant such an outcome of being banned, what other behavior would have to take place before it would reach that level? That is an open question for everybody to decide personally.
Is it more civil to degrade and intimidate in order to get others to quit or to set standards for expected behavior and let those standards apply to all members? The third option is to allow toxic behavior to fracture the club which is what has been happening the past 7 months.
MS added me to his list of people to sueA along the way as I was called a "Backstabbing Motherf$!@er". I can live with those petty threats, I just choose not to.A Setting standards of decency that do not allow bullying and threats seems like a good idea to me, but I am just one opinion.
On Aug 12, 2016 3:59 AM, "Roland" <[1]willibillie@live.de> wrote:
First of all, i
But banning MS for life? Isn't banning for life a relict from the dark age? What about his supporters? Send them out with a sign "I'm guilty" ? MS was voted by many for his promisises making Poca great again ( didn't i hear
don't like the actions MS did ! this very often lataly) What about his voters? Are they ashamed, for what he has done? No ! I haven't heard of one !
Roland
Am 11.08.2016 um
A A He should have
used PST, because Joe lives in AZ where they have no
A A DST. At the moment AZ time and CA time are the same.
A A Sorry
A A It lasted until 7.58, but it was a great meeting, it was so much less A A tense. A A In a nutshell. A A Bob publicly announced and made a commitment that we will not be A A returning to
A A finances and BOD meetings open, etc. A A Waiting 1 week on Mike Burnett for a decision on his VP
22:42 schrieb Ed Mendez <[2]edducati@mac.com>: pre-2016 BOD ways, keeping all the MS changes, keeping position
A A Board appointments: A A Les is Past President A A Mike H is Profiles A A Jack D is Newsletter
A A Talked about
A A Josette is Store manager (non-board) the store and the website
A A Talked about banning MS for life.
A A Ed
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