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Happy New Year!
by Julian Kift 05 Jan '25

05 Jan '25

Happy New Year to all! There's been virtually no list traffic in my inbox since Kurt started the migration to the new platform and I'm still not able to find any archives. Have folks just gotten used to not having the list and migrated elsewhere or is there perhaps a more general access issue? Cheers, Julian Happy New Year to all! There's been virtually no list traffic in my inbox since Kurt started the migration to the new platform and I'm still not able to find any archives. Have folks just gotten used to not having the list and migrated elsewhere or is there perhaps a more general access issue? Cheers, Julian

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by Alain GUERIN 04 Jan '25

04 Jan '25

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Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 247, Issue 2
by Isaac Burr 04 Jan '25

04 Jan '25

Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:01 PM, detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com wrote: > > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wheel Alignment - Toe, Camber, Caster & Ackermann (Julian Kift) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 17:06:44 +0000 > From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel Alignment - Toe, Camber, Caster & Ackermann > To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> > Message-ID: <PH8PR11MB697453FCCDCF919C792C851595152(a)PH8PR11MB6974.nam > prd11.prod.outlook.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_PH8PR11MB697453 > FCCDCF919C792C851595152PH8PR11MB6974namp_" > > Not long ago there was a post by Mike Drew where he'd taken a mutual friends Pantera for an alignment after installing a rebuilt steering rack. The outcome was that the new-fangled commercial alignment machines that clamp onto the tire don't work on a Pantera due to the tire to fender clearance. Most of the new alignment systems I saw on display at SEMA were of a very similar design, so either the industry is not catering for sports cars or we'll be forced to find more 'specialist' shops at presumably higher prices as those shops have had to make a more significant investment in the equipment. > > The Gyraline system is new to market and I must admit I have not personally tried it yet, but seems intriguing with the simplicity of using our ever-complex smart phones. I have used inclination apps to setup equipment at work and they have worked well, so see no reason this new app-based alignment would not work and it isn't significantly different to a current camber gauge I own where it measures the difference when flipped 180 degrees, rather than relying on needing a true horizontal or vertical plane. > > The Gyraline phone holder looks a little cheesy and of 3D home printed quality, but that could be solved easily to incorporate a gauge that is adjustable across the full rim width for greater accuracy. I have string setups, a set of older toes gauges and a camber / caster gauge, but the simplicity of using one's phone to check alignment anywhere on the go is very attractive. I intend to get one and verify against my trusted method and see how accurate we can get. > > https://gyraline.com/ > > Julian >

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Wheel Alignment - Toe, Camber, Caster & Ackermann
by Julian Kift 03 Jan '25

03 Jan '25

Not long ago there was a post by Mike Drew where he'd taken a mutual friends Pantera for an alignment after installing a rebuilt steering rack. The outcome was that the new-fangled commercial alignment machines that clamp onto the tire don't work on a Pantera due to the tire to fender clearance. Most of the new alignment systems I saw on display at SEMA were of a very similar design, so either the industry is not catering for sports cars or we'll be forced to find more 'specialist' shops at presumably higher prices as those shops have had to make a more significant investment in the equipment. The Gyraline system is new to market and I must admit I have not personally tried it yet, but seems intriguing with the simplicity of using our ever-complex smart phones. I have used inclination apps to setup equipment at work and they have worked well, so see no reason this new app-based alignment would not work and it isn't significantly different to a current camber gauge I own where it measures the difference when flipped 180 degrees, rather than relying on needing a true horizontal or vertical plane. The Gyraline phone holder looks a little cheesy and of 3D home printed quality, but that could be solved easily to incorporate a gauge that is adjustable across the full rim width for greater accuracy. I have string setups, a set of older toes gauges and a camber / caster gauge, but the simplicity of using one's phone to check alignment anywhere on the go is very attractive. I intend to get one and verify against my trusted method and see how accurate we can get. https://gyraline.com/ Julian Not long ago there was a post by Mike Drew where he'd taken a mutual friends Pantera for an alignment after installing a rebuilt steering rack. The outcome was that the new-fangled commercial alignment machines that clamp onto the tire don't work on a Pantera due to the tire to fender clearance. Most of the new alignment systems I saw on display at SEMA were of a very similar design, so either the industry is not catering for sports cars or we'll be forced to find more 'specialist' shops at presumably higher prices as those shops have had to make a more significant investment in the equipment. The Gyraline system is new to market and I must admit I have not personally tried it yet, but seems intriguing with the simplicity of using our ever-complex smart phones. I have used inclination apps to setup equipment at work and they have worked well, so see no reason this new app-based alignment would not work and it isn't significantly different to a current camber gauge I own where it measures the difference when flipped 180 degrees, rather than relying on needing a true horizontal or vertical plane. The Gyraline phone holder looks a little cheesy and of 3D home printed quality, but that could be solved easily to incorporate a gauge that is adjustable across the full rim width for greater accuracy. I have string setups, a set of older toes gauges and a camber / caster gauge, but the simplicity of using one's phone to check alignment anywhere on the go is very attractive. I intend to get one and verify against my trusted method and see how accurate we can get. [1]https://gyraline.com/ Julian References 1. https://gyraline.com/

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Happy New Year.
by Kjeld Pedersen 02 Jan '25

02 Jan '25

Happy New-Year from Denmark Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards Kjeld Pedersen Kabinespecialisten ApS Røllikevej 11 9310 Vodskov TLF. +45 98 29 34 94 - Mobil +45 28 14 34 94 CVR 34080712 www.servicegear.dk

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Anyone Use an Automatic Center Punch?
by Ken Green 19 Dec '24

19 Dec '24

Never looked at them, but in some places it is tough to hit a center punch with a hammer so if these work, maybe useful? Ken Never looked at them, but in some places it is tough to hit a center punch with a hammer so if these work, maybe useful? Ken

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Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 246, Issue 3
by dsmtjoy＠cox.net 16 Dec '24

16 Dec '24

Ditto with Mikev on the center punches ! Darrell Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:22:43 -0800 From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew(a)aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Anyone Use an Automatic Center Punch? To: Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <A21423DB-5561-448F-8F17-6DB5588DC2B5(a)aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary=Apple-Mail-AFA881A9-E3D9-43B9-8E1F-D6776528728A Ken, I long ago retired my conventional punch. A spring-loaded center punch is a critical, elemental tool for anybody’s toolbox. Harbor Freight works terrific: 00621_W3.jpg [1]Automatic Center Punch with Brass Handle [2]harborfreight.com I have two of them for convenience. They’ve been working great for decades. Mike

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NPC Ford Mustang help NPC
by Terry Himes 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Anyone know of a Mustang shop in SoCal. Preferably in San Diego. My neighbor has a 1965 Mustang, straight six. Any referrals would be great. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes Princeton Networks Corporation President Cell: (818) 653-8213 Deep Space Mission Systems (818) 653-8213 terry.himes(a)pncnet.com JPL (RED) Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Mars 2020 (Perseverance) Rover Relay Mars 2020 (Ingenuity) Helicopter Relay Psyche Orbiter Europa Lander Science Support Team Odyssey Sequence Team TGO Sequence Lead MEX Sequence Lead Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team Dawn Spacecraft Team Anyone know of a Mustang shop in SoCal. Preferably in San Diego. My neighbor has a 1965 Mustang, straight six. Any referrals would be great. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes Princeton Networks Corporation President Cell: (818) 653-8213 Deep Space Mission Systems (818) 653-8213 [1]terry.himes(a)pncnet.com JPL (RED) Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Mars 2020 (Perseverance) Rover Relay Mars 2020 (Ingenuity) Helicopter Relay Psyche Orbiter Europa Lander Science Support Team Odyssey Sequence Team TGO Sequence Lead MEX Sequence Lead Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team Dawn Spacecraft Team signature_117325739 References 1. mailto:terry.himes@pncnet.com

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rear tire specs
by STEVEN EDWARDS 01 Dec '24

01 Dec '24

We have a problem that I hope someone can help.I have a 72 that has 345/30-18 on it. The tires are 10 years old and need to be replaced.What are my opions to replace them. Can we still find 345"s?The car has 285's in the front and the 345's in the rear. Steven Edwards We have a problem that I hope someone can help. I have a 72 that has 345/30-18 on it. The tires are 10 years old and need to be replaced. What are my opions to replace them. Can we still find 345"s? The car has 285's in the front and the 345's in the rear. Steven Edwards

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Re: Looking for advice on sale price for #4748
by brogers＠optonline.net 18 Nov '24

18 Nov '24

Resending without pictures (2) because site said it was holding the email for review... I think Ken U should have... ________________________________ From: brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 7:57 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for advice on sale price for #4748 All: Thanks for the feedback received. Agree, best to get clutch installed and get running then sell... PROBLEM, every mechanic seems to want to run up the bill because they are interested in the car themselves probably to flip They all want to charge $15K to go through the car or of course they'll buy it outright for cheap. I find this is very common with one-off mechanics. Even some shops run up huge tabs and use mechanic lean to ultimately get u to sell the car. The car has sat for 14 years so it probably needs a good going through before running but 15 grand, really?? 2 estimates, no parts just their labor. The body is perfect, not a spot of rust anywhere. I think it was built by Hall hack in '86 to show quality, many trophies. Plaque on door says "Built exclusively for Mr Vanek" All I know is that Mr Vanek was in the movie business in California Interior very warn, leather GTS kit, I think Hall Pantera, with woodgrain side panels. To clarify, the car isn't totally disassembled, just engine out on a stand and XF out (POLISHED) Seats removed to access front of engine. That's it So install clutch, reassemble, and clean it up and its back to pictures as seen on Provamo website. I get the pricing as described (30/50/70), and that was VERY helpful. It's a sad day when one sells their Pantera but I will make someone new happy Thanks for your help in the past, Milke I think you helped me 14 years ago with clutch purchase THANKS ALL! Regards. Bruce E. Northport, New York buckrogers56(a)gmail.com PS Car is on Provamo registry, I dont know if this picture will come through. ________________________________ From: Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 3:51 PM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com>; brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for advice on sale price for #4748 Probably worth paying a mechanic to install the clutch. It would be worth a lot more if someone can drive it. Some restomods have sold for more than original cars, can you share photos? On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 04:58:46 AM PST, brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> wrote: __________________________________________________________________ From: brogers(a)optonline.net<mailto:brogers@optonline.net> <brogers(a)optonline.net<mailto:brogers@optonline.net>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 7:05 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 I'm selling #4748 to someone local, nice guy, and I'd like to give him the car. He's a mechanic for a local township and will be able to do work himself. Question is how much if fair... * Car is complete but disassembled * Was doing a clutch replacement and effort stalled 14 years... * Before that car was working great except slipping clutch * Its been heavily customized with lots of louvers and many many upgrades all done in California and professionally * Now, I'm being told that because of all the alterations the car is not worth much because it probably can never be restored to original * Price will include new clutch I bought from Colorado guy years ago with help of this forum to find, (almost $1k) I'm thinking between $30k and 40K, is that about right? I know U guys are very familiar with the car, this is on PROVOMO for reference Thanks in advance Bruce * __________________________________________________________________ From: detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@detomasolist.com> <detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@detomasolist.com>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:00 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Resending without pictures (2) because site said it was holding the email for review... I think Ken U should have... __________________________________________________________________ From: brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 7:57 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for advice on sale price for #4748 All: Thanks for the feedback received. Agree, best to get clutch installed and get running then sell... PROBLEM, every mechanic seems to want to run up the bill because they are interested in the car themselves probably to flip They all want to charge $15K to go through the car or of course they'll buy it outright for cheap. I find this is very common with one-off mechanics. Even some shops run up huge tabs and use mechanic lean to ultimately get u to sell the car. The car has sat for 14 years so it probably needs a good going through before running but 15 grand, really?? 2 estimates, no parts just their labor. The body is perfect, not a spot of rust anywhere. I think it was built by Hall hack in '86 to show quality, many trophies. Plaque on door says "Built exclusively for Mr Vanek" All I know is that Mr Vanek was in the movie business in California Interior very warn, leather GTS kit, I think Hall Pantera, with woodgrain side panels. To clarify, the car isn't totally disassembled, just engine out on a stand and XF out (POLISHED) Seats removed to access front of engine. That's it So install clutch, reassemble, and clean it up and its back to pictures as seen on Provamo website. I get the pricing as described (30/50/70), and that was VERY helpful. It's a sad day when one sells their Pantera but I will make someone new happy Thanks for your help in the past, Milke I think you helped me 14 years ago with clutch purchase THANKS ALL! Regards. Bruce E. Northport, New York buckrogers56(a)gmail.com PS Car is on Provamo registry, I dont know if this picture will come through. __________________________________________________________________ From: Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 3:51 PM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com>; brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for advice on sale price for #4748 Probably worth paying a mechanic to install the clutch. It would be worth a lot more if someone can drive it. Some restomods have sold for more than original cars, can you share photos? On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 04:58:46 AM PST, brogers(a)optonline.net <brogers(a)optonline.net> wrote: __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]brogers(a)optonline.net <[2]brogers(a)optonline.net> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 7:05 AM To: [3]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <[4]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 I'm selling #4748 to someone local, nice guy, and I'd like to give him the car. He's a mechanic for a local township and will be able to do work himself. Question is how much if fair... * Car is complete but disassembled * Was doing a clutch replacement and effort stalled 14 years... * Before that car was working great except slipping clutch * Its been heavily customized with lots of louvers and many many upgrades all done in California and professionally * Now, I'm being told that because of all the alterations the car is not worth much because it probably can never be restored to original * Price will include new clutch I bought from Colorado guy years ago with help of this forum to find, (almost $1k) I'm thinking between $30k and 40K, is that about right? I know U guys are very familiar with the car, this is on PROVOMO for reference Thanks in advance Bruce * __________________________________________________________________ From: [5]detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com <[6]detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:00 AM To: [7]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <[8]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [9]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [10]detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [11]detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." 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