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Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5
by brogers＠optonline.net 17 Nov '24

17 Nov '24

I'm selling #4748 to someone local, nice guy, and I'd like to give him the car. He's a mechanic for a local township and will be able to do work himself. Question is how much if fair... * Car is complete but disassembled * Was doing a clutch replacement and effort stalled 14 years... * Before that car was working great except slipping clutch * Its been heavily customized with lots of louvers and many many upgrades all done in California and professionally * Now, I'm being told that because of all the alterations the car is not worth much because it probably can never be restored to original * Price will include new clutch I bought from Colorado guy years ago with help of this forum to find, (almost $1k) I'm thinking between $30k and 40K, is that about right? I know U guys are very familiar with the car, this is on PROVOMO for reference Thanks in advance Bruce * ________________________________ From: detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:00 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." I'm selling #4748 to someone local, nice guy, and I'd like to give him the car. He's a mechanic for a local township and will be able to do work himself. Question is how much if fair... * Car is complete but disassembled * Was doing a clutch replacement and effort stalled 14 years... * Before that car was working great except slipping clutch * Its been heavily customized with lots of louvers and many many upgrades all done in California and professionally * Now, I'm being told that because of all the alterations the car is not worth much because it probably can never be restored to original * Price will include new clutch I bought from Colorado guy years ago with help of this forum to find, (almost $1k) I'm thinking between $30k and 40K, is that about right? I know U guys are very familiar with the car, this is on PROVOMO for reference Thanks in advance Bruce * __________________________________________________________________ From: detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:00 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 245, Issue 5 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."

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Battery Booster Batteries Swell?
by Ken Green 17 Nov '24

17 Nov '24

Tried to use a Winplus booster I bought from Costco maybe 3 or 4 years ago, and the case was split open and looks like a battery pack expanded and I can't squeeze the case back together. If you have one of these in your trunk (maybe it was t heat?) may be a good idea to check it before you need it. I picked up a NOCO booster maybe 4 months ago and kept it in the glove compartment, and it worked. Ken Tried to use a Winplus booster I bought from Costco maybe 3 or 4 years ago, and the case was split open and looks like a battery pack expanded and I can't squeeze the case back together. If you have one of these in your trunk (maybe it was t heat?) may be a good idea to check it before you need it. I picked up a NOCO booster maybe 4 months ago and kept it in the glove compartment, and it worked. Ken

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Lee’s Campys are NOT for sale any longer
by Asa Jay Laughton 16 Nov '24

16 Nov '24

Lee contacted me this morning to let me know the Campys he had for sale are no longer for sale. Thank you, Asa Jay Sent via radio waves

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Fwd: HSR Daytona 24 hours -photos 1
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

With photos this time. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> Date: November 2, 2024 at 09:18:05 PDT To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: HSR Daytona 24 hours -photos 1 image2.jpeg image1.jpeg Corner weighting the car. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves On Nov 2, 2024, at 12:11, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> wrote: Hi all, Here is the live feed of the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours of Daytona. <maxresdefault.jpg> [1]2024 HSR Classic 24 Hour at Daytona + Daytona Historics | Daytona International Speedway | Part 1 [2]youtube.com My old Pantera now belonging to Steve Lisa, will be in group A racing at 2 pm Eastern, then again at 8 pm, 2 am Sunday and last round at 7 pm after the time change. The car is holding up well through all qualifying. It’s a brutal track on this car. The Norma race they brought already cracked the chassis and us out. The Pantera is running group 3 specs which means no chassis bracing is allowed. The car is flexing like a Twizzler but she’s doing well overall. They -have- so far allowed the upgrade to Wilwood brakes which are providing the kind of stopping power they need from 160+ down to just over 45 MPH entering turn 1. Stock Cleveland bored to 358, Performer 4V manifold, Proform 750 carb, stock ZF with oil cooler. I’ll follow up with some photos. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves References Visible links: 1. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd 2. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd

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Fwd: [TPR] Fwd: HSR Update
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Old news due to the list outage, but still relatable. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> > > Subject: Re: [TPR] Fwd: HSR Update > > Pantera 5533 just finished and won First in class, at the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours at Daytona International Speedway. > > Congratulations to the fine team of Steve and Tony Lisa and their crew to make it all the way through. > > > Asa Jay > Sent via radio waves > Old news due to the list outage, but still relatable. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> Subject: Re: [TPR] Fwd: HSR Update Pantera 5533 just finished and won First in class, at the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours at Daytona International Speedway. Congratulations to the fine team of Steve and Tony Lisa and their crew to make it all the way through. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves

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Fwd: HSR Daytona 24 hours - photos 3
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> > Date: November 2, 2024 at 09:26:54 PDT > To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: HSR Daytona 24 hours - photos 3 > > > > Relaxing between sessions, check bolts, brakes, drain fuel (check how much was used) and refill to know quantity, and other minor adjustments like toe and camber. > > > Asa Jay > Sent via radio waves Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> Date: November 2, 2024 at 09:26:54 PDT To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: HSR Daytona 24 hours - photos 3 image0.jpeg Relaxing between sessions, check bolts, brakes, drain fuel (check how much was used) and refill to know quantity, and other minor adjustments like toe and camber. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves

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Fwd: HSR Daytona 24 hours - photos 2
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Old news due to the list outage, but still relatable. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves Begin forwarded message: On Nov 2, 2024, at 12:11, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> wrote: Hi all, Here is the live feed of the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours of Daytona. <maxresdefault.jpg> [1]2024 HSR Classic 24 Hour at Daytona + Daytona Historics | Daytona International Speedway | Part 1 [2]youtube.com My old Pantera now belonging to Steve Lisa, will be in group A racing at 2 pm Eastern, then again at 8 pm, 2 am Sunday and last round at 7 pm after the time change. The car is holding up well through all qualifying. It’s a brutal track on this car. The Norma race they brought already cracked the chassis and us out. The Pantera is running group 3 specs which means no chassis bracing is allowed. The car is flexing like a Twizzler but she’s doing well overall. They -have- so far allowed the upgrade to Wilwood brakes which are providing the kind of stopping power they need from 160+ down to just over 45 MPH entering turn 1. Stock Cleveland bored to 358, Performer 4V manifold, Proform 750 carb, stock ZF with oil cooler. I’ll follow up with some photos. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves image0.jpeg image1.jpeg References Visible links: 1. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd 2. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd

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Re: HSR Daytona 24 hours -photos 1
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Old news due to the list outage, but still relatable. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves On Nov 2, 2024, at 09:18, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> wrote: <image2.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> Corner weighting the car. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves On Nov 2, 2024, at 12:11, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> wrote: Hi all, Here is the live feed of the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours of Daytona. <maxresdefault.jpg> [1]2024 HSR Classic 24 Hour at Daytona + Daytona Historics | Daytona International Speedway | Part 1 [2]youtube.com My old Pantera now belonging to Steve Lisa, will be in group A racing at 2 pm Eastern, then again at 8 pm, 2 am Sunday and last round at 7 pm after the time change. The car is holding up well through all qualifying. It’s a brutal track on this car. The Norma race they brought already cracked the chassis and us out. The Pantera is running group 3 specs which means no chassis bracing is allowed. The car is flexing like a Twizzler but she’s doing well overall. They -have- so far allowed the upgrade to Wilwood brakes which are providing the kind of stopping power they need from 160+ down to just over 45 MPH entering turn 1. Stock Cleveland bored to 358, Performer 4V manifold, Proform 750 carb, stock ZF with oil cooler. I’ll follow up with some photos. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves References Visible links: 1. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd 2. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd

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Re: HSR Daytona 24 hours
by Asa Jay Laughton 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Old news due to the list outage, but still relatable. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves On Nov 2, 2024, at 09:11, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> wrote: Hi all, Here is the live feed of the Historic Sportscar Racing 24 hours of Daytona. <maxresdefault.jpg> [1]2024 HSR Classic 24 Hour at Daytona + Daytona Historics | Daytona International Speedway | Part 1 [2]youtube.com My old Pantera now belonging to Steve Lisa, will be in group A racing at 2 pm Eastern, then again at 8 pm, 2 am Sunday and last round at 7 pm after the time change. The car is holding up well through all qualifying. It’s a brutal track on this car. The Norma race they brought already cracked the chassis and us out. The Pantera is running group 3 specs which means no chassis bracing is allowed. The car is flexing like a Twizzler but she’s doing well overall. They -have- so far allowed the upgrade to Wilwood brakes which are providing the kind of stopping power they need from 160+ down to just over 45 MPH entering turn 1. Stock Cleveland bored to 358, Performer 4V manifold, Proform 750 carb, stock ZF with oil cooler. I’ll follow up with some photos. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves References Visible links: 1. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd 2. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/live/K4K9pJadeJ4?si=CQQ7sknfjNcKO6Rd

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Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 244, Issue 30
by Steve Blood 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

got it On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 11:00:38 PM CST, detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Test (Kurt Byrnes) 2. Re: Test (Mike Drew) 3. Re: Test (Larry Stock) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 02:22:10 -0500 From: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Test To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <952f7c6e-64bd-4406-a59b-813cfe52b3e3(a)kbyrnes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed List test ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:55:00 -0800 From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew(a)aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Test To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Cc: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <56009A24-87A2-4C04-B1E8-90E31B85A7B4(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It works at last! Thanks Kurt!!! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2024, at 23:38, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: > > List test > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:58:09 -0800 From: Larry Stock <larrys(a)panteraparts.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Test To: Pantera Mike Drew <mikeldrew(a)aol.com>, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Cc: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <CF9D8399-E3A3-4F50-B01A-353912B752E4(a)panteraparts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yeaa On 11/12/24, 11:55 PM, "Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> wrote: It works at last! Thanks Kurt!!! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2024, at 23:38, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com <mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com>> wrote: > > List test > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 244, Issue 30 ***************************************** got it On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 11:00:38 PM CST, detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com <detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [1]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [2]detomaso-request(a)detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [3]detomaso-owner(a)detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Test (Kurt Byrnes) 2. Re: Test (Mike Drew) 3. Re: Test (Larry Stock) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 02:22:10 -0500 From: Kurt Byrnes <[4]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Test To: [5]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <[6]952f7c6e-64bd-4406-a59b-813cfe52b3e3(a)kbyrnes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed List test ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:55:00 -0800 From: Mike Drew <[7]mikeldrew(a)aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Test To: Kurt Byrnes <[8]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Cc: [9]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <[10]56009A24-87A2-4C04-B1E8-90E31B85A7B4(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It works at last! Thanks Kurt!!! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2024, at 23:38, Kurt Byrnes <[11]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: > > List test > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [12]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [13]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:58:09 -0800 From: Larry Stock <[14]larrys(a)panteraparts.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Test To: Pantera Mike Drew <[15]mikeldrew(a)aol.com>, Kurt Byrnes <[16]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> Cc: [17]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Message-ID: <[18]CF9D8399-E3A3-4F50-B01A-353912B752E4(a)panteraparts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yeaa On 11/12/24, 11:55 PM, "Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <[19]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> wrote: It works at last! Thanks Kurt!!! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2024, at 23:38, Kurt Byrnes <[20]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com <mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com>> wrote: > > List test > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [21]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [22]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso <[23]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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