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OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No need to send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution list from POCA. Forest
OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No need to
send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution list
from POCA.
Forest
15
21
I could check this out if anyone is interested.
Ford 351C-4V Complete engine Quench heads Original bore
http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html
David in Durango
I could check this out if anyone is interested.
Ford 351C-4V Complete engine Quench heads Original bore
[1]http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html
David in Durango
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1. http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html
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Hi guys,
Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at least
two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car properly (one
only had it for three weeks!).
It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's because
the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's more of a
concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades including a better
motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were replaced by really good
Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas.
Here is the seller info:
Paul Kalenian
Santa Fe New Mexico 87506
505 699 8608
paul(a)kalenian.com
You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and track
its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the next. Top
photos show its current condition.
Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active member
of the forum even while being Panteraless.
I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate
owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but then the
market went up and so it's quite likely that the current asking price is
close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what that number is at the
moment.
Cheers!
Mike
Hi guys,
Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at
least two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car
properly (one only had it for three weeks!).
It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's
because the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's
more of a concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades
including a better motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were
replaced by really good Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas.
Here is the seller info:
Paul Kalenian
Santa Fe New Mexico 87506
505 699 8608
paul(a)kalenian.com
You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and
track its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the
next. Top photos show its current condition.
Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active
member of the forum even while being Panteraless.
I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate
owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but
then the market went up and so it's quite likely that the current
asking price is close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what
that number is at the moment.
Cheers!
Mike
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0
When they say don't crush them, restore them -- they could run this.
http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=c83358ee7d5c
dave
When they say don't crush them, restore them -- they could run this.
[1]http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=c83358ee7d5c
dave
References
1. http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=c83358ee7d5c
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Sorry for giving you a headache Asa Jay! :-) It's actually as simple as
(cross section area) multiplied by (force per area unit).
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Asa Jay Laughton [asajay(a)asajay.com]
Sent: 22/5/2016 10:41:34 PM
To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Tomas,
Please take the following comment as a deep respect for your depth of
knowledge as I have never professed to be a learned engineer.
Dang man you can make my head hurt. ;)
I truly admire the smart folks we have out there.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/22/2016 7:28 AM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of
19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2
and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a
little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6
x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Larry Weston [[3]lplugw(a)hotmail.com]
Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM
To: [4]guson(a)home.se
Cc: [5]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case,
there are four of them.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
<[6]guson(a)home.se[7]<mailto:guson@home.se>> wrote:
A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the
weight of the car.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Larry Weston [[8]lplugw(a)hotmail.com[9]<mailto:lplugw@hotmail.com>]
Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM
To: [10]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[11]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>
Cc:
[12]MikeLDrew(a)aol.com[13]<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>;detomaso@detomasolis
t.com
[14]<m
ailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in
that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm
diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to
think about it to much I decided.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift
<[15]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[16]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle
tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being
within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is
still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half
shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas
when we brake!
>
> Julian
> ________________________________________
> From: marshall smith
<[17]marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net[18]<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.ne
t>>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew';
[19]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[20]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>;
Julian
Kift
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>
> Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to
loosen the axle nut??
>
> M
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
<[21]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[22]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
> To: "Douglas Kelm"
<[23]dakelm(a)qwest.net[24]<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>>,
"'Mike Drew'" <[25]MikeLDrew(a)aol.com[26]<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>,
"[27]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[28]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>"
<[29]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[30]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>>
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
>
> Doug,
>
> Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the
> wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise
> motion of the axle would want to undo it!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso
<[31]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com[32]<mailto:detomaso-bounce
s@ser
ve
r.detomasolist.com>>
> on behalf of Douglas Kelm
<[33]dakelm(a)qwest.net[34]<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net
>>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM
> To: 'Mike Drew';
[35]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[36]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
> side?
>
> I would think that
> the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the
> left side
> of the vehicle. Think of the nut
> being stationary while the axle (on the
> drivers side) rotates counter clockwise
> (looking from outside the car),
> meaning the
> nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is
> the
> desired situation. Of course,
> there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely
> full of "it"!
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[37]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM
> To:
[38]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[39]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
> side?
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I thought I would lead off
> with he first technical question on the new
> forum.
>
> The
> rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and
> 'right' respectively. But
> that
> speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse
> thread, left to
> tighten)
>
> It's my belief that the S or left-tighten
> axle goes on the left side of the
> car but I
> can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or
> deny?
>
> Thanks!
>
> And welcome back!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Sorry for giving you a headache Asa Jay! :-) It's actually as simple as
(cross section area) multiplied by (force per area unit).
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Asa Jay Laughton [asajay(a)asajay.com]
Sent: 22/5/2016 10:41:34 PM
To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Tomas,
Please take the following comment as a deep respect for your depth of
knowledge as I have never professed to be a learned engineer.
Dang man you can make my head hurt. ;)
I truly admire the smart folks we have out there.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/22/2016 7:28 AM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of
19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2
and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a
little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6
x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Larry Weston [[3]lplugw(a)hotmail.com]
Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM
To: [4]guson(a)home.se
Cc: [5]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case,
there are four of them.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
<[6]guson(a)home.se[7]<mailto:guson@home.se>> wrote:
A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the
weight of the car.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Larry Weston
[[8]lplugw(a)hotmail.com[9]<mailto:lplugw@hotmail.com>]
Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM
To: [10]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[11]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>
Cc:
[12]MikeLDrew(a)aol.com[13]<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>;detomaso@detomasoli
st.com
[14]<m
ailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in
that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm
diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to
think about it to much I decided.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift
<[15]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[16]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>
> The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle
tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being
within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is
still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half
shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas
when we brake!
>
> Julian
> ________________________________________
> From: marshall smith
<[17]marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net[18]<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.n
et>>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew';
[19]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[20]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>;
Julian
Kift
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>
> Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to
loosen the axle nut??
>
> M
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
<[21]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com[22]<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
> To: "Douglas Kelm"
<[23]dakelm(a)qwest.net[24]<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>>,
"'Mike Drew'" <[25]MikeLDrew(a)aol.com[26]<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>,
"[27]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[28]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>"
<[29]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[30]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>>
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
>
> Doug,
>
> Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the
> wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise
> motion of the axle would want to undo it!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso
<[31]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com[32]<mailto:detomaso-bounc
es@ser
ve
r.detomasolist.com>>
> on behalf of Douglas Kelm
<[33]dakelm(a)qwest.net[34]<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net
>>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM
> To: 'Mike Drew';
[35]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[36]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
> side?
>
> I would think that
> the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the
> left side
> of the vehicle. Think of the nut
> being stationary while the axle (on the
> drivers side) rotates counter clockwise
> (looking from outside the car),
> meaning the
> nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is
> the
> desired situation. Of course,
> there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely
> full of "it"!
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[37]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM
> To:
[38]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com[39]<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
> side?
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I thought I would lead off
> with he first technical question on the new
> forum.
>
> The
> rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and
> 'right' respectively. But
> that
> speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse
> thread, left to
> tighten)
>
> It's my belief that the S or left-tighten
> axle goes on the left side of the
> car but I
> can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or
> deny?
>
> Thanks!
>
> And welcome back!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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God Bless the Ladies. What good fortune. Well done, sir.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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Of MyCars
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:05 AM
To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Interesting Rally Racer Story
So I am working along the road of my farm earlier today with my new
excavator that was just delivered to me today. Keep in mind that this is a
private road out in the middle of nowhere.
A couple of older ladies (one of them was 91) pass by & we all wave at each
other. A little later on as they come back to leave, they stop to ask about
some of my neighbors. We end up talking about my farm, my family and to drop
by to visit when our house is finished being built.
It ends up that she used to live at the end of the road and that her son is
a famous rally car driver. She asks me if I have ever heard of Ken Block,
her son! Have I? Subaru in the snow, Ford at an airport, Ford in LA, Ford in
Egypt (she corrects me ... Dubai)
She enjoyed talking to me so much that she gets out of her car & says she
has a little present for me. From the back seat she pulls out a hardcover
book called "Blast" that is autographed by Ken Block & hands that to me.
I am in awe, meeting interesting people out in the middle of nowhere...
& now I really hope that she comes back sometime with her son in tow, maybe
I'll even get the drifting ride of my life!
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So I am working along the road of my farm earlier today with my new
excavator that was just delivered to me today. Keep in mind that this is
a private road out in the middle of nowhere.
A couple of older ladies (one of them was 91) pass by & we all wave at
each other. A little later on as they come back to leave, they stop to
ask about some of my neighbors. We end up talking about my farm, my
family and to drop by to visit when our house is finished being built.
It ends up that she used to live at the end of the road and that her son
is a famous rally car driver. She asks me if I have ever heard of Ken
Block, her son! Have I? Subaru in the snow, Ford at an airport, Ford in
LA, Ford in Egypt (she corrects me ... Dubai)
She enjoyed talking to me so much that she gets out of her car & says
she has a little present for me. From the back seat she pulls out a
hardcover book called "Blast" that is autographed by Ken Block & hands
that to me.
I am in awe, meeting interesting people out in the middle of nowhere...
& now I really hope that she comes back sometime with her son in tow,
maybe I'll even get the drifting ride of my life!
1
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-------- Original message --------
From: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith(a)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 05/22/2016 7:46 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf(a)embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Hey Joe,
Unfortunately your renewal comes at a time when we have recently elected a new president to the Pantera Owners Club of America. This man promises to bring POCA into the 21st century, an issue that is very badly needed, with a new website, multiple Fun Rallys, more transparency with club finances and decision-making and many other improvements to an aging and stubbornboard of directors. This man has a good track record and impressive credentials and leads many of us to believe he can and will do what he says. Unfortunately, he has the polish and manners of Donald Trump and that has rubbed many the wrong way.
One new issue pertains exactly to your email which is an attempt to relocate the criticism and sourness so rampant on this forum by members instrumental in the growth and health of POCA to another area where new and returning members aren't so badly jaded by what they read on this forum.
As a member of this organization for longer than 30 years, I will tell you there is no better source of information on the car nor a better group of friends that you will meet than in POCA. If you own a De Tomaso, you simply must be a member of POCA as the help and information you will receive from its members is endless.
I would ask you at this time to renew and enjoy your membership. I would also ask that you don't get caught up or damaged by these growing pains that our organization is experiencing at this time. It WILL be resolved in the near future and will leave POCA stronger than ever.
I hope that you stay with us Joe. If there is anything that you need or information that would be helpful to you, please don't hesitate to plug into this forum or email me personally.Collectively, we are a wealth of knowledge that will make your DeTomaso ownership much easier and richer!
Marshall Smith President, San Diego Panteras
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Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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Date: 05/22/2016 7:46 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf(a)embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Hey Joe,
Unfortunately your renewal comes at a time when we have recently
elected a new president to the Pantera Owners Club of America. This man
promises to bring POCA into the 21st century, an issue that is very
badly needed, with a new website, multiple Fun Rallys, more
transparency with club finances and decision-making and many other
improvements to an aging and stubborn
board of directors. This man has a good track record and impressive
credentials and leads many of us to believe he can and will do what he
says. Unfortunately, he has the polish and manners of Donald Trump and
that has rubbed many the wrong way.
One new issue pertains exactly to your email which is an attempt to
relocate the criticism and sourness so rampant on this forum by members
instrumental in the growth and health of POCA to another area where new
and returning members aren't so badly jaded by what they read on this
forum.
As a member of this organization for longer than 30 years, I will tell
you there is no better source of information on the car nor a better
group of friends that you will meet than in POCA. If you own a De
Tomaso, you simply must be a member of POCA as the help and information
you will receive from its members is endless.
I would ask you at this time to renew and enjoy your membership. I
would also ask that you don't get caught up or damaged by these growing
pains that our organization is experiencing at this time. It WILL be
resolved in the near future and will leave POCA stronger than ever.
I hope that you stay with us Joe. If there is anything that you need or
information that would be helpful to you, please don't hesitate to plug
into this forum or email me personally.
Collectively, we are a wealth of knowledge that will make your DeTomaso
ownership much easier and richer!
Marshall Smith
President, San Diego Panteras
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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Great point Rob!!! Whenever I have people trying to change my mind on how I think on a particular issue, I automatically become weary. The hundred or so past emails seem to do nothing but try to change people's minds.
We all have different opinions. State them and move on. It's our duty to support our club and its board. If you don't like the way things are, run for office. But whatever you do, do it with civility!
Marshall
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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From: B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 05/22/2016 11:12 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net>, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Good point.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net>
To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
All,A with Kurt's comments summing up the state of affairs nicely, can
we all just please make these discussions be about the cars and
light-hearted humor.A Leave the politics and attacks for direct
private emails and let's move on. Possibly the best outcome here is a
show of civility. That itself would speak volumes and serve in all our
interests.............or, you could just tell me to piss off :)
Rob
On May 22, 2016 1:32 PM, "Kurt Byrnes" <[1]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote:
A A Excellent point Sean.A Please keep things in prospective and
remember
A A many services potentially crawl the list and archives so
anything you
A A write, any person you disparage, etc. are potentially saved for
the
A A world to see and google.
A A I'm CERTAIN the POCA BOD is doing what it thinks is best for
the club.
A A There are many valid changes they're trying to institute.A You
or I may
A A agree or disagree with the changes and approach but PLEASE
don't write
A A something naming specific people that you wouldn't want written
about
A A yourself.A It's just a car club.
A A Kurt
A A On 5/22/2016 1:15 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
A A Just a reminder, the email archives are public.A AA I learned
30 years
A A ago that local politics were not my thing except to
occasionally hold
A A my nose and vote, plus a little well placed snark :)A AA I
adore this
A A list though so I'm not exactly pulling out a bucket of popcorn
to
A A watch.AA Be sure not to be exclusive.AA That is the real
strength of
A A this community.
A A sean
A A On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Julian Kift
A A [1]<[1][2]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A Well if you only send it to the people you know will provide
a
A A A favorable response then the statistic become very useful as
a
A A A mandate to continue ;-)
A A A ________________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
[2]<[2][3]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of Mike Thomas [3]<[3][4]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>
A A A Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:41 AM
A A A To: 'Forest Goodhart';
[[4]4][5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A Odd, seems I was not either.AA Michael?
A A Mike Thomas
A A Pres., Panteras Northwest
A A Yellow a74 #6328
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[[5]5][6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of Forest Goodhart
A A Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:46 PM
A A To: [[6]6][7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No
need to
A A send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution
list
A A from POCA. Forest
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To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
All,A with Kurt's comments summing up the state of affairs nicely,
can
we all just please make these discussions be about the cars and
light-hearted humor.A Leave the politics and attacks for direct
private emails and let's move on. Possibly the best outcome here is a
show of civility. That itself would speak volumes and serve in all
our
interests.............or, you could just tell me to piss off :)
Rob
On May 22, 2016 1:32 PM, "Kurt Byrnes" <[1][1]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote:
A A Excellent point Sean.A Please keep things in prospective and
remember
A A many services potentially crawl the list and archives so
anything you
A A write, any person you disparage, etc. are potentially saved
for
the
A A world to see and google.
A A I'm CERTAIN the POCA BOD is doing what it thinks is best for
the club.
A A There are many valid changes they're trying to institute.A
You
or I may
A A agree or disagree with the changes and approach but PLEASE
don't write
A A something naming specific people that you wouldn't want
written
about
A A yourself.A It's just a car club.
A A Kurt
A A On 5/22/2016 1:15 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
A A Just a reminder, the email archives are public.A AA I learned
30 years
A A ago that local politics were not my thing except to
occasionally hold
A A my nose and vote, plus a little well placed snark :)A AA I
adore this
A A list though so I'm not exactly pulling out a bucket of popcorn
to
A A watch.AA Be sure not to be exclusive.AA That is the real
strength of
A A this community.
A A sean
A A On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Julian Kift
A A [1]<[1][2][2]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A Well if you only send it to the people you know will
provide
a
A A A favorable response then the statistic become very useful as
a
A A A mandate to continue ;-)
A A A ________________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
[2]<[2][3][3]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of Mike Thomas [3]<[3][4][4]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>
A A A Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:41 AM
A A A To: 'Forest Goodhart';
[[4]4][5][5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A Odd, seems I was not either.AA Michael?
A A Mike Thomas
A A Pres., Panteras Northwest
A A Yellow a74 #6328
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso
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A A Behalf Of Forest Goodhart
A A Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:46 PM
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A A Subject: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No
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80. http://www.spkorb.org/
81. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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83. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com
84. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
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88. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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96. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
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99. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
100. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
101. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
102. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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104. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
105. mailto:spkorb@spkorb.org
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Great point Rob!!! Whenever I have people trying to change my mind on
how I think on a particular issue, I automatically become weary. The
hundred or so past emails seem to do nothing but try to change people's
minds.
We all have different opinions. State them and move on. It's our duty
to support our club and its board. If you don't like the way things
are, run for office. But whatever you do, do it with civility!
Marshall
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-------- Original message --------
From: B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 05/22/2016 11:12 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net>, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Good point.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net>
To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
All,A with Kurt's comments summing up the state of affairs nicely,
can
we all just please make these discussions be about the cars and
light-hearted humor.A Leave the politics and attacks for direct
private emails and let's move on. Possibly the best outcome here is a
show of civility. That itself would speak volumes and serve in all
our
interests.............or, you could just tell me to piss off :)
Rob
On May 22, 2016 1:32 PM, "Kurt Byrnes" <[1]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote:
A A Excellent point Sean.A Please keep things in prospective and
remember
A A many services potentially crawl the list and archives so
anything you
A A write, any person you disparage, etc. are potentially saved
for
the
A A world to see and google.
A A I'm CERTAIN the POCA BOD is doing what it thinks is best for
the club.
A A There are many valid changes they're trying to institute.A
You
or I may
A A agree or disagree with the changes and approach but PLEASE
don't write
A A something naming specific people that you wouldn't want
written
about
A A yourself.A It's just a car club.
A A Kurt
A A On 5/22/2016 1:15 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
A A Just a reminder, the email archives are public.A AA I learned
30 years
A A ago that local politics were not my thing except to
occasionally hold
A A my nose and vote, plus a little well placed snark :)A AA I
adore this
A A list though so I'm not exactly pulling out a bucket of popcorn
to
A A watch.AA Be sure not to be exclusive.AA That is the real
strength of
A A this community.
A A sean
A A On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Julian Kift
A A [1]<[1][2]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A Well if you only send it to the people you know will
provide
a
A A A favorable response then the statistic become very useful as
a
A A A mandate to continue ;-)
A A A ________________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
[2]<[2][3]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of Mike Thomas [3]<[3][4]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>
A A A Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:41 AM
A A A To: 'Forest Goodhart';
[[4]4][5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A Odd, seems I was not either.AA Michael?
A A Mike Thomas
A A Pres., Panteras Northwest
A A Yellow a74 #6328
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[[5]5][6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of Forest Goodhart
A A Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:46 PM
A A To: [[6]6][7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No
need to
A A send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the
distribution
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__________________________________________________________________
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net>
To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
All,A with Kurt's comments summing up the state of affairs
nicely,
can
we all just please make these discussions be about the cars and
light-hearted humor.A Leave the politics and attacks for direct
private emails and let's move on. Possibly the best outcome here
is a
show of civility. That itself would speak volumes and serve in all
our
interests.............or, you could just tell me to piss off :)
Rob
On May 22, 2016 1:32 PM, "Kurt Byrnes" <[1][1]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com>
wrote:
A A Excellent point Sean.A Please keep things in prospective
and
remember
A A many services potentially crawl the list and archives so
anything you
A A write, any person you disparage, etc. are potentially saved
for
the
A A world to see and google.
A A I'm CERTAIN the POCA BOD is doing what it thinks is best
for
the club.
A A There are many valid changes they're trying to institute.A
You
or I may
A A agree or disagree with the changes and approach but PLEASE
don't write
A A something naming specific people that you wouldn't want
written
about
A A yourself.A It's just a car club.
A A Kurt
A A On 5/22/2016 1:15 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
A A Just a reminder, the email archives are public.A AA I
learned
30 years
A A ago that local politics were not my thing except to
occasionally hold
A A my nose and vote, plus a little well placed snark :)A AA I
adore this
A A list though so I'm not exactly pulling out a bucket of
popcorn
to
A A watch.AA Be sure not to be exclusive.AA That is the real
strength of
A A this community.
A A sean
A A On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Julian Kift
A A [1]<[1][2][2]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A Well if you only send it to the people you know will
provide
a
A A A favorable response then the statistic become very useful
as
a
A A A mandate to continue ;-)
A A A ________________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
[2]<[2][3][3]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of Mike Thomas
[3]<[3][4][4]mbefthomas(a)comcast.net>
A A A Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:41 AM
A A A To: 'Forest Goodhart';
[[4]4][5][5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A Odd, seems I was not either.AA Michael?
A A Mike Thomas
A A Pres., Panteras Northwest
A A Yellow a74 #6328
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[[5]5][6][6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of Forest Goodhart
A A Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:46 PM
A A To: [[6]6][7][7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
A A OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No
need to
A A send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the
distribution
list
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I suggest we have a Drive Your Pantera Day! Saturday was national 'Drive Your Woodie Day', but I was out driving my Pantera Saturday, so I drove my Woodie today.
Our Pantera drive was awesome! Team Pantera OC organized a drive to Fallbrook, CA to visit Dave and Linda Adler and enjoy their three deTomaso cars. Along the way, we drove through the Inland Empire and San Diego and picked up POCA members and cars along the way. We were 34 strong at the Adler's and again at lunch afterward.
It made me think, POCA needs a 'Drive Your Pantera Day!' The Woodie owners submit photos to our National magazine "Woodie Times" that includes their car and where they visited, and us Pantera drivers could submit them to Profiles! Here's a collection of photos from our Pantera Day! Hope you enjoy! (Actually, hope the photo goes through). Ask and I will forward the photo to you if it got axed. :-)
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