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1:12 scale Mangusta
by Larry Finch 24 Sep '16

24 Sep '16

All, Came across a new 1:12 scale model of the Mangusta offered by a firm in Germany. Their website is a little bit funky, and provides very little details on the model. Not even sure if any of the doors or decklids are movable. Parts of the website are in English and there is a email contact form. http://www.unikat-modelcars.com/home-1 Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. All, Came across a new 1:12 scale model of the Mangusta offered by a firm in Germany. Their website is a little bit funky, and provides very little details on the model. Not even sure if any of the doors or decklids are movable. Parts of the website are in English and there is a email contact form. [1]http://www.unikat-modelcars.com/home-1 Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. image1.PNG References 1. http://www.unikat-modelcars.com/home-1

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Fwd: Track Boss update 9/21/2016....One year later..
by Ed Mendez 24 Sep '16

24 Sep '16

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus Begin forwarded message: > From: Timothy Meyer <fordmachinist(a)gmail.com> > Date: September 23, 2016 at 6:58:43 AM PDT > To: Timothy Meyer <fordmachinist(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Track Boss update 9/21/2016....One year later.. > > 1 year ago today, TMeyer took ownership of the Tod Buttermore Cleveland block. So what happened in the past year? I will admit, it has gone slower than expected. As you can see in one of the pictures, the tooling has been upgraded to have solid bulk head for the mains, we had extra material added for the 1-piece rear main seal. The first 2 sample casting arrived at our show the beginning of April. City had to bring in 440 volt service, so that was finished about May or June. Then thanks to some misunderstandings, our horizontal CNC machine was wired incorrectly and caused a little over $30,000 in damage and a lot more time. CNC machine was up and running in about July when all was said and done. Part of the deal in purchasing the Cleveland block project was (2) machining fixtures, (1) will work fine, but the other was totally not what we wanted and instead of arguing about it, we just moved ahead and start to make it ourselves. So as of today, while we were in the "holding pattern" we have machined the Duraspark RTR distributor and finished the first (2) samples of the Track Boss 8.2 intake manifold. In the past week or so we have been slowly finishing up on the fixtures to machine blocks. With any luck, within a week we will be sharing pictures of the first steps in machining the new Cleveland block. > Again, we appreciate your patience, this has been a long and drawn out process. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus Begin forwarded message: From: Timothy Meyer <[1]fordmachinist(a)gmail.com> Date: September 23, 2016 at 6:58:43 AM PDT To: Timothy Meyer <[2]fordmachinist(a)gmail.com> Subject: Track Boss update 9/21/2016....One year later.. 1 year ago today, TMeyer took ownership of the Tod Buttermore Cleveland block. So what happened in the past year? I will admit, it has gone slower than expected. As you can see in one of the pictures, the tooling has been upgraded to have solid bulk head for the mains, we had extra material added for the 1-piece rear main seal. The first 2 sample casting arrived at our show the beginning of April. City had to bring in 440 volt service, so that was finished about May or June. Then thanks to some misunderstandings, our horizontal CNC machine was wired incorrectly and caused a little over $30,000 in damage and a lot more time. CNC machine was up and running in about July when all was said and done. Part of the deal in purchasing the Cleveland block project was (2) machining fixtures, (1) will work fine, but the other was totally not what we wanted and instead of arguing about it, we just moved ahead and start to make it ourselves. So as of today, while we were in the "holding pattern" we have machined the Duraspark RTR distributor and finished the first (2) samples of the Track Boss 8.2 intake manifold. In the past week or so we have been slowly finishing up on the fixtures to machine blocks. With any luck, within a week we will be sharing pictures of the first steps in machining the new Cleveland block. Again, we appreciate your patience, this has been a long and drawn out process. [cid:image009.jpg@01D21578.AF751370] [cid:image010.jpg@01D21578.AF751370] [cid:image011.jpg@01D21578.AF751370] email sig References 1. mailto:fordmachinist@gmail.com 2. mailto:fordmachinist@gmail.com

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Parts car?
by Tom Cabanski 24 Sep '16

24 Sep '16

Don't know if anybody saw this internet page. www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.htm<http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.htm> tom Don't know if anybody saw this internet page. [1]www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.htm tom References 1. http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.htm

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Fwd: Daily Turismo: Some Welding Required: 1972 DeTomaso Pantera
by CHRIS W VANDERBYL 23 Sep '16

23 Sep '16

Found it here. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "chris vanderbyl" <chris.vanderbyl(a)shaw.ca> To: "chris vanderbyl" <chris.vanderbyl(a)shaw.ca> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:00:32 AM Subject: Daily Turismo: Some Welding Required: 1972 DeTomaso Pantera http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.html Found it here. __________________________________________________________________ From: "chris vanderbyl" <chris.vanderbyl(a)shaw.ca> To: "chris vanderbyl" <chris.vanderbyl(a)shaw.ca> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:00:32 AM Subject: Daily Turismo: Some Welding Required: 1972 DeTomaso Pantera [1]http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-de tomaso.html References 1. http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/09/some-welding-required-1972-detomaso.html

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Re: [DeTomaso] Parts car?
by Tom Cabanski 23 Sep '16

23 Sep '16

I see that it does not pull up the page. You can do a search on the Turismo project web site under pantera. tom I see that it does not pull up the page. You can do a search on the Turismo project web site under pantera. tom

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Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank)
by Chuck and Linda Huber 23 Sep '16

23 Sep '16

Here's the other shots of my tanks. These mods were fabricated up by W-Wadeco Inc. (Wade Musil of Tucson, AZ) #8 shows the brass elbow on the top of the swirl tank. The pressure cap was removed and the top sealed up. Actually, Wade built me a complete new swirl tank. #9 shows the two "inlet fittings" on the top of the expansion tank. Wade fabricated this entire tank as well. #10 shows the mounting in the bay. The plumbing is not hooked up in this picture. Chuck Wade may be on this board. If so, I want to thank him again for the fine work. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:19 PM To: 'Guido deTomaso'; 'Chuck and Linda Huber'; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) I am being serious this post... I couldn't see the pics, but you confirmed how I thought Chuck had plumbed his tanks. I agree that way provides active deaeration and it will be one of the few modifications I plan to include. Joe -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Guido deTomaso Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 15:59 PM To: Chuck and Linda Huber; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) This (below) is a genius modification, creating a true active deaeration system using suction from the water pump to continuously flow water through the expansion tank, drawing air from the high points in the system. But how common, how many have built a system like this ? The TSB modification, which some here ( Tomas? ) have confirmed was likely incorporated at the factory, connects the relatively high-pressure swirl tank to the lower-pressure radiator, so I conclude while the engine is running, nothing is going to flow from the radiator to the swirl tank, it's not going to actively de-aerate. Initial fill, I can see it helping. After that, I'm scratching my head. Thanks, GD From: Chuck and Linda Huber <lindahuber(a)cox.net> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) There is definitely a mod that sucks air from both the swirl tank, and the top of the radiator into the expansion tank. The expansion tank is under suction, and this causes any trapped air to bleed to the expansion tank. I did this on my car. I believe that it does its job, especially of removing any trapped air from the radiator. I had to run a new, separate metal hard line down the length of the car from near the front of the radiator, all the way back up the bulkhead past the electrics panel, to near the expansion tank. Here are pictures of my tanks with the appropriate bleed fittings installed. Chuck I think Joe was just joking - His Coriolis post confused me... -----Original Message----- From: Owen Cooke [mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:45 AM To: Julian Kift; Guido deTomaso; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank, was Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19 Julian yes you could be right i need to check it all again owen cooke > > > On 21/09/2016 22:37, Guido deTomaso wrote: > > > > > > "but my car had bleed pipe from the rad back to the swirl tank" > > > > I'm kinda fascinated by this mod, which I believe is in the TSB's, > > connecting the top of the radiator to the swirl tank with a long > > hose. Not sure how it works or what it was supposed to do. > > > > With a completely dry system, I can visualise how it would allow the > > radiator to fill completely, as air formerly trapped in the top of > > the radiator would have a path back to the swirl tank, a higher point. > > > > But once the engine is started, water or air is going to move from > > the swirl tank to the radiator, because of pressure difference. Not > > sure this is helpful but maybe isn't harmful. > > > > Most difficult to visualize, if the engine is off and there is air > > in the radiator, can the weight / head / row gee aych of the water > > in the swirl tank push the air into the swirl tank ? Is there some > > Archimedes rule I'm not seeing here ? > > > > Also did any cars come from the factory this way, was there an > > official path and mounting systems for the hose ? Cable ties ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Guy D. > > > >

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Super-nice Mangusta and Euro GTS for sale...
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 23 Sep '16

23 Sep '16

....in Germany: http://www.thiesen-automobile.com/en/angebot_detailansicht29696.html?f=new http://www.thiesen-automobile.com/en/angebot_detailansicht29716.html?f=new Beautiful photography! Mike ....in Germany: http://www.thiesen-automobile.com/en/angebot_detailansicht29696.html?f= new http://www.thiesen-automobile.com/en/angebot_detailansicht29716.html?f= new Beautiful photography! Mike

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Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank)
by Chuck and Linda Huber 23 Sep '16

23 Sep '16

The pictures didn't come through, so here is the line diagram (Courtesy George Pence & PI) -----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:19 PM To: 'Guido deTomaso'; 'Chuck and Linda Huber'; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) I am being serious this post... I couldn't see the pics, but you confirmed how I thought Chuck had plumbed his tanks. I agree that way provides active deaeration and it will be one of the few modifications I plan to include. Joe -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Guido deTomaso Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 15:59 PM To: Chuck and Linda Huber; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) This (below) is a genius modification, creating a true active deaeration system using suction from the water pump to continuously flow water through the expansion tank, drawing air from the high points in the system. But how common, how many have built a system like this ? The TSB modification, which some here ( Tomas? ) have confirmed was likely incorporated at the factory, connects the relatively high-pressure swirl tank to the lower-pressure radiator, so I conclude while the engine is running, nothing is going to flow from the radiator to the swirl tank, it's not going to actively de-aerate. Initial fill, I can see it helping. After that, I'm scratching my head. Thanks, GD From: Chuck and Linda Huber <lindahuber(a)cox.net> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank (It doesn't go to the swirl tank) There is definitely a mod that sucks air from both the swirl tank, and the top of the radiator into the expansion tank. The expansion tank is under suction, and this causes any trapped air to bleed to the expansion tank. I did this on my car. I believe that it does its job, especially of removing any trapped air from the radiator. I had to run a new, separate metal hard line down the length of the car from near the front of the radiator, all the way back up the bulkhead past the electrics panel, to near the expansion tank. Here are pictures of my tanks with the appropriate bleed fittings installed. Chuck I think Joe was just joking - His Coriolis post confused me... -----Original Message----- From: Owen Cooke [mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:45 AM To: Julian Kift; Guido deTomaso; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Top of radiator connected to swirl tank, was Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19 Julian yes you could be right i need to check it all again owen cooke > > > On 21/09/2016 22:37, Guido deTomaso wrote: > > > > > > "but my car had bleed pipe from the rad back to the swirl tank" > > > > I'm kinda fascinated by this mod, which I believe is in the TSB's, > > connecting the top of the radiator to the swirl tank with a long > > hose. Not sure how it works or what it was supposed to do. > > > > With a completely dry system, I can visualise how it would allow the > > radiator to fill completely, as air formerly trapped in the top of > > the radiator would have a path back to the swirl tank, a higher point. > > > > But once the engine is started, water or air is going to move from > > the swirl tank to the radiator, because of pressure difference. Not > > sure this is helpful but maybe isn't harmful. > > > > Most difficult to visualize, if the engine is off and there is air > > in the radiator, can the weight / head / row gee aych of the water > > in the swirl tank push the air into the swirl tank ? Is there some > > Archimedes rule I'm not seeing here ? > > > > Also did any cars come from the factory this way, was there an > > official path and mounting systems for the hose ? Cable ties ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Guy D. > > > >

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Rear stock calipers sticking
by Rob Dumoulin 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

I just installed the Wilwoods on the front mount of the back brake and left the stock calipers on the rear mount as a parking brake. The hydraulics are not hooked up to the stock calipers and instead there is a fitting to allow the slave cylinder to breath normally but not gather dirt. The parking brake has in the past not released fully and I've just grown accustomed to not using it. While it all was apart, i tried to figure out why. The parking brake cable bracket on the caliper can be pushed back with some effort, but it does not move freely and the spring has little effect on it. Is that normal and if not, what might be the remedies? Thanks! I just installed the Wilwoods on the front mount of the back brake and left the stock calipers on the rear mount as a parking brake. The hydraulics are not hooked up to the stock calipers and instead there is a fitting to allow the slave cylinder to breath normally but not gather dirt. The parking brake has in the past not released fully and I've just grown accustomed to not using it.A While it all was apart, i tried to figure out why.A The parking brake cable bracket on the caliper can be pushed back with some effort, but it does not move freely and the spring has little effect on it. Is that normal and if not, what might be the remedies? Thanks!

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351C Engine Weight Savings
by B. SEIB 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

Here are some links. If you search them for "weights" I think you will find some of the info you are seeking. I hope it's helpful. Barry http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419 http://351c.net/board/index.php?/topic/2157-engine-weights/#comment-3576 http://351c.net/board/index.php?/forum/50-engine-tech/

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