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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
by bill 17 Sep '16

17 Sep '16

L o L CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com> Date: 2016-09-16 7:04 PM (GMT-07:00) To: bill <bill(a)incendium.com> Cc: michael frazier <red3644(a)hotmail.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com, Bruce Singer <HACHEPE55(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Just don't use those Chinese mufflers! Haha 😂 Ed Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:26 PM, bill <bill(a)incendium.com> wrote: Michael: Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered. Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: michael frazier <red3644(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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L o L Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com> Date: 2016-09-16 7:04 PM (GMT-07:00) To: bill <bill(a)incendium.com> Cc: michael frazier <red3644(a)hotmail.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com, Bruce Singer <HACHEPE55(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Just don't use those Chinese mufflers! Haha Ed Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:26 PM, bill <[1]bill(a)incendium.com> wrote: Michael: Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered. Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: michael frazier <[2]red3644(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: [3]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from Mail<[4]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 References 1. 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Heater register news....
by Mike Drew 17 Sep '16

17 Sep '16

Guys, I was talking with Steve Wilkinson the other day and he told me his latest project has been to tool up and reproduce original Pantera heater/air conditioner registers like the ones shown here: They have not been available new for at least 15 years, and the supply of good used ones is almost gone. Coming to a vendor near you, in the near future.... Mike Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
by bill 17 Sep '16

17 Sep '16

Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered. CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier <red3644(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Hi All, I’m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won’t be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That’s the reason for the overdrive. I’ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Michael: Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered. Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: michael frazier <red3644(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 Hi All, I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since 1961 and only has 25k miles, but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out. Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete Jaguar XJ suspension front and back. I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an overdrive transmission. Manual or automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used regularly and would likely be run in an open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive. I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering what would work well. What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Michael Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
by David Nunn 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

Julian, Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine, with both IPSCO items installed. David -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com] Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM To: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn(a)telus.net>; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises Julian, Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Mike, > > It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the one > that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but was > adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on > the rear. > Julian > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of > Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM > To: David Nunn > Cc: <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises > > All, > Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there > is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall > kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system. > [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f@namprd18.prod.outlook.com] > Mike > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <dnunn(a)telus.net> wrote: >> Rob, >> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it > adjustable. >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's > web >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details. >> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and > belt >> tensioning a breeze. >> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm >> >> References >> >> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg] > [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ... > www.ipsco.org > Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley, > this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind > the bracket to tighten in ... >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 2. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 3. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
by bill 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

Wow !,,,, That looks to nice to cover up..... CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn <dnunn(a)telus.net> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises Julian, Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine, with both IPSCO items installed. David -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com] Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM To: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn(a)telus.net>; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises Julian, Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Mike, > > It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the one > that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but was > adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on > the rear. > Julian > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of > Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM > To: David Nunn > Cc: <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises > > All, > Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there > is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall > kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system. > [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f@namprd18.prod.outlook.com] > Mike > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <dnunn(a)telus.net> wrote: >> Rob, >> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it > adjustable. >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's > web >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details. >> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and > belt >> tensioning a breeze. >> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm >> >> References >> >> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg] > [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ... > www.ipsco.org > Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley, > this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind > the bracket to tighten in ... >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 2. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 3. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Wow !,,,, That looks to nice to cover up..... Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: David Nunn <dnunn(a)telus.net> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises Julian, Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine, with both IPSCO items installed. David -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com] Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM To: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn(a)telus.net>; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises Julian, Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Mike, > > It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the one > that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but was > adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on > the rear. > Julian > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of > Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM > To: David Nunn > Cc: <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises > > All, > Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there > is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall > kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system. > [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f@namprd18.prod.outlook.com] > Mike > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <dnunn(a)telus.net> wrote: >> Rob, >> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it > adjustable. >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's > web >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details. >> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and > belt >> tensioning a breeze. >> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm >> >> References >> >> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm > [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg] > [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ... > www.ipsco.org > Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley, > this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind > the bracket to tighten in ... >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
by Larry Stock 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is using a Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the DeTomaso Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some vendors offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the bell housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is. Larry On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman" <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of will.kooiman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Wow. > >I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly. > >My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily >available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a new >bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave. > >At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far. > >-- >Will > > > > > >On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso" ><detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >>Cullen, >> >>2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in >>2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most recently >>did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with >>and ordered directly from McLeod. >> >>My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!" >> >>The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout >>spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had >>on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90° fitting >>where one should have used a 45° fitting, twisted itself, unseen of >>course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line >>attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up >>very long against grinding by a pressure plate. >> >>The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking >>outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly. >> >>Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild kit >>I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous invoice. >>What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit which >>uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined that >>for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used >>exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as a >> A or a B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company. >>No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations. >> >>While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the task >>of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and >>unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull the >>transaxle and start all over again. >> >>The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has >>been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine. >>Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my >>experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that >>road for themselves. >> >>Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory >>details. >> >>Larry >> >>Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>DeTomaso mailing list >>DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >>To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >>the links above. >> >>Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>approve the archiving of list messages. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >approve the archiving of list messages. >

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Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
by David Nunn 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

Rob, If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it adjustable. It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's web site so you have to call or e-mail to get details. Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and belt tensioning a breeze. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm Rob, If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it adjustable. It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's web site so you have to call or e-mail to get details. Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and belt tensioning a breeze. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm References 1. http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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McLeod hydraulic throw out
by Larry Finch 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

Cullen, 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most recently did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod. My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!" The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90° fitting where one should have used a 45° fitting, twisted itself, unseen of course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up very long against grinding by a pressure plate. The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly. Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as a – A or a –B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations. While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull the transaxle and start all over again. The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine. Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that road for themselves. Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory details. Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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McLeod hydraulic throw out
by Cullen McCann 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

Good afternoon! Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car application. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22 Thank you!! Good afternoon! Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car application. [1]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22 Thank you!! References 1. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22

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Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
by Jack Donahue 16 Sep '16

16 Sep '16

There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I wish I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website, thanks. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM, GR2835(a)comcast.net wrote: > > Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under the fan controller button on their website. > I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I made and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14 mile traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015 Woodward Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with the air set on the warmest setting. > Good luck > Gerry in Illinois > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jack Donahue <demongusta(a)gmail.com> > To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud > > Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to admit it’s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain’t broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn’t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don’t want to mention it right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will “build-to-suit” - but the Hall unit looks to be “tried-and-proven”. > Now - fans. I really don’t know the brand name of my fans, but they are suckers - about 12” diameter - and the blades are “curved” - sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL, and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone’s post about the Flex-a-lite’s since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me. > So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions: > jack > #4348 > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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