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exercise
by Dave Londry 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Seeing as I'm posting-mad today, here's 6143 getting a bit of exercise last weekend. Dave

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Hey! Naked Pantera
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Bruce contacted me, as he has found some Pantera ID plates that he would like to get back to the right car. He has the timing plate, the Body Service Number plate (50169), and the Block Number plate, also known as the Mechanical Parts Number (03122). I have searched the registry for the BSN and the block number, but find no direct match. Has this car been scrapped? Is she still running around, naked of her ID plates ? Who knows? This would be a late July '72 thru Sept '72 USA-market Pantera (probably an L model), based upon the sequential BSN (started with 50001 in July). Bruce got them from a guy, who got them from a widow, etc. so little more other info from the source other that what we see. The ID plates are being stored under Unknown1236 in the registry, until reunited with the correct car. Thanks go to Bruce for his efforts! And for you 'math' types, or anyone that likes a Pantera puzzle. Here is a challenge to those DeTomaso fans good at simple math and interpolation: Given the VIN, BSN and motor numbers (listed in the registry), what is the VIN of the Pantera with the highest probability of a match? (or even just the approximate range.) Quick link to a search page: http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryByFeature.asp If you prefer, contact me offline so we don't bore the rest of the group with math. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp Bruce contacted me, as he has found some Pantera ID plates that he would like to get back to the right car. He has the timing plate, the Body Service Number plate (50169), and the Block Number plate, also known as the Mechanical Parts Number (03122). I have searched the registry for the BSN and the block number, but find no direct match. Has this car been scrapped? Is she still running around, naked of her ID plates ? Who knows? This would be a late July '72 thru Sept '72 USA-market Pantera (probably an L model), based upon the sequential BSN (started with 50001 in July). Bruce got them from a guy, who got them from a widow, etc... so little more other info from the source other that what we see. The ID plates are being stored under Unknown1236 in the registry, until reunited with the correct car. Thanks go to Bruce for his efforts! And for you `math' types, or anyone that likes a Pantera puzzle... Here is a challenge to those DeTomaso fans good at simple math and interpolation: Given the VIN, BSN and motor numbers (listed in the registry), what is the VIN of the Pantera with the highest probability of a match? (or even just the approximate range.) Quick link to a search page: [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryByFea ture.asp If you prefer, contact me offline so we don't bore the rest of the group with math. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryByFeature.asp 2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp

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radiator place says they can't make or get a new core for stock radiator
by Pantdino 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

I know brass and copper radiators are going the way of the dodo bird, but I thought a radiator core could be made any shape or size that was needed. My radiator was recored in the early 1980's and did fine re cooling, but finally developed a leak in the core. I took it to what used to be a great radiator shop that has since become mainly a general car repair place and they said they can't fix it. Anyone have their stock radiator recored lately? I know a lot of people go with aluminum rads, but I'd rather keep the stock "frame" for appearances sake Jim Oddie (was bumped from the list recently because of too many bounces, so I hope this goes thru) I know brass and copper radiators are going the way of the dodo bird, but I thought a radiator core could be made any shape or size that was needed. My radiator was recored in the early 1980's and did fine re cooling, but finally developed a leak in the core. I took it to what used to be a great radiator shop that has since become mainly a general car repair place and they said they can't fix it. Anyone have their stock radiator recored lately? I know a lot of people go with aluminum rads, but I'd rather keep the stock "frame" for appearances sake Jim Oddie (was bumped from the list recently because of too many bounces, so I hope this goes thru)

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Profiles 2015 #4?
by Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

I was doing some cleaning/organizing and did not find a 2015 #4. Was there one sent out (so I'll keep looking) or not? I am not looking one, just aggravated I can't remember where I put things lately. Joe I was doing some cleaning/organizing and did not find a 2015 #4. Was there one sent out (so I'll keep looking) or not? I am not looking one, just aggravated I can't remember where I put things lately. Joe

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Meeting starts 7:30pm, or find a seat order dinner at 7:30pm ? was Re: August PCNC Meeting and Newsletter
by Guido deTomaso 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Sad commentary is I don't remember ... GD From: Pantera Club of Northern California <membership(a)panteraclubnorcal.org> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:19 AM Subject: August PCNC Meeting and Newsletter | | | | NOTE: NEXT CLUB MEETING IS: Thursday, August 25th, 2016 @ 7:30 P.M. Holder's Country Inn 998 South De Anza Blvd. San Jose, CA UPCOMING EVENTS! Ironstone Concours September 24th Vandenberg Air Force Base Car Show September 24th Niello Concours at Serrano October 2nd DeTomaso Pantera is the featured marque! NOTE!!: Gary Kono’s son lives right next door to Serrano and is hosting a BBQ dinner for us onSaturday night, October 1st. He must have an RSVP so he can plan accordingly. Gary said if people don’tsign up and give a head count, they don’t get any food! So contact Gary if you plan to attend thedinner. To RSVP contact Gary at gary5634kono(a)rocketmail.com (see Newsletter for more details on these events) The August edition of the Newsletter can be downloaded here. Enjoy! If the above hyperlink doesn't work, the direct link to the current newsletter is: https://sites.google.com/a/panteraclubnorcal.org/www/g---current-pcnc-newsl… All prior issues are available on the website at http://www.panteraclubnorcal.org/h---previous-pcnc-publications/newsletters Don't forget to wear your PCNC name badge to get a free raffle ticket! Take an interest in your Club . . . STEP UP and participate! Lori Drew – Membership Coordinator Questions? Call me at 707-208-6032 or email me at cloridrew(a)gmail.com Sad commentary is I don't remember ... GD __________________________________________________________________ From: Pantera Club of Northern California <membership(a)panteraclubnorcal.org> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:19 AM Subject: August PCNC Meeting and Newsletter Inline image 1 NOTE: NEXT CLUB MEETING IS: Thursday, August 25th, 2016 @ 7:30 P.M. Holder's Country Inn 998 South De Anza Blvd. San Jose, CA UPCOMING EVENTS! Ironstone Concours September 24th Vandenberg Air Force Base Car Show September 24th Niello Concours at Serrano October 2nd DeTomaso Pantera is the featured marque! NOTE!!: Gary Konoas son lives right next door to Serrano and is hosting a BBQ dinner for us on Saturday night, October 1st. He must have an RSVP so he can plan accordingly. Gary said if people donat sign up and give a head count, they donat get any food! So contact Gary if you plan to attend the dinner. To RSVP contact Gary at [1]gary5634kono(a)rocketmail.com (see Newsletter for more details on these events) The August edition of the Newsletter can be downloaded [2]here. Enjoy! If the above hyperlink doesn't work, the direct link to the current newsletter is: [3]https://sites.google.com/a/panteraclubnorcal.org/www/g---current-pcn c-newsletter All prior issues are available on the website at [4]http://www.panteraclubnorcal.org/h---previous-pcnc-publications/news letters Don't forget to wear your PCNC name badge to get a free raffle ticket! Take an interest in your Club . . . STEP UP and participate! Lori Drew a Membership Coordinator Questions? Call me at [5]707-208-6032 or email me at [6]cloridrew(a)gmail.com References Visible links 1. mailto:gary5634kono@rocketmail.com 2. http://www.panteraclubnorcal.org/h---previous-pcnc-publications/newsletters… 3. https://sites.google.com/a/panteraclubnorcal.org/www/g---current-pcnc-newsl… 4. http://www.panteraclubnorcal.org/h---previous-pcnc-publications/newsletters 5. file://localhost/tmp/tmpHMFfMq.html 6. mailto:cloridrew@gmail.com Hidden links: 8. file://localhost/tmp/tmpHMFfMq.html

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Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk
by marshall smith 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly gets much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded in the front. Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/10/16, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk To: "falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net" <falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net>, "MikeLDrew(a)aol.com" <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM Mike, All good advice until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution even keeping a can of fix a flat in the front trunk unless it is behind the battery or against the bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can explode in the front trunk of my car, fortunately no damage, but the sticky mess made the trunk unusable for the rest of the trip and took a good weekend too clean out. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:23 PM To: falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk Jack (I assume that's your name?) Your e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty well lays out your question. Before getting down to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you hadn't considered. Let's say you're driving down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire. You pull over, pull out your jack and your spare, install the spare, inflate it, lower the car back onto the road.... ...and then what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and flat tire (or equally expensive and rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire) are sitting there on the shoulder of the road. What do you plan to do with them? It's much too big to fit into the car! You're not going to abandon them, so no matter what, you're going to need to call a tow truck. So given that's the case, why even bother carrying a spare? Having said that, if you are really wanting a spare (perhaps for concours), they are rare and expensive, coveted by the Mustang restoration guys. The spare used in the Pantera was the same one used on late 1960s and early 1970s performance Mustangs, including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302, Boss 429, 428 CJ cars with fold down rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries. There is one available for sale on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85 shipping (buy it now price), and another one in much better shape available for auction with a starting price of $395 (but the reserve is likely much higher). Personally I would never trust a 40-year-old collapsible spare tire in any circumstances, so I would view that as a display item only. Others have found that lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model Fords (Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and they can be had from junkyards for a fraction of the cost. But personally, I wouldn't bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat (note that some of those use PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly explosive; more than one Pantera has suffered extensive damage from an explosion, so read the label carefully, and keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA card.... Mike -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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NPC: Ford GT
by Larry Finch 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

You mean this car? On display at Pebble. Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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NPC: Ford GT
by Larry - Ohio Time 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Ford Performance is adding two more years of production for the all-new carbon fiber Ford GT supercar. The announcement comes on the heels of letters sent to potential customers notifying them of their application status to purchase one of their own, with more than 500 of those coming from the UK alone. The additional production supports the decision by Ford Performance to race Ford GT in both IMSA and World Endurance Championship (WEC) series events for four years, extending through to the 2019 season. "While we can't build enough Ford GTs for everyone who has applied, we are going to produce additional vehicles in an effort to satisfy more of our most loyal Ford ambassadors," says Dave Pericak, global director, Ford Performance. "We want to keep Ford GT exclusive, but at the same time we know how vital this customer is to our brand." Year three of production will support applicants who were placed on the waiting list; previously deferred applicants and those who missed the initial application window will be served by production year four. The application process for fourth-year production will reopen in early 2018. Those who already applied to own the car will only need to update their request. "Ford GT has racing in its blood," says Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president, product development, and chief technical officer. "The road car and race car will live on, side-by-side, for the next four years - providing ample opportunity to test and prove innovative new technologies both on and off the track." Larry (needs to buy lotto ticket) - Cleveland Ford Performance is adding two more years of production for the all-new carbon fiber Ford GT supercar. The announcement comes on the heels of letters sent to potential customers notifying them of their application status to purchase one of their own, with more than 500 of those coming from the UK alone. IFRAME: [1]https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1470229675139/index.html The additional production supports the decision by Ford Performance to race Ford GT in both IMSA and World Endurance Championship (WEC) series events for four years, extending through to the 2019 season. "While we can't build enough Ford GTs for everyone who has applied, we are going to produce additional vehicles in an effort to satisfy more of our most loyal Ford ambassadors," says Dave Pericak, global director, Ford Performance. "We want to keep Ford GT exclusive, but at the same time we know how vital this customer is to our brand." Year three of production will support applicants who were placed on the waiting list; previously deferred applicants and those who missed the initial application window will be served by production year four. The application process for fourth-year production will reopen in early 2018. Those who already applied to own the car will only need to update their request. "Ford GT has racing in its blood," says Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president, product development, and chief technical officer. "The road car and race car will live on, side-by-side, for the next four years - providing ample opportunity to test and prove innovative new technologies both on and off the track." Larry (needs to buy lotto ticket) - Cleveland References 1. https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1470229675139/index.html

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Redesign of the GT5-S
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

When the styling of the Pantera (GT5-S) was considered for updating, DeTomaso created new front and rear sections. See one example, from Pantera 9494 in the registry. This car is also currently up for sale. I like the new rear styling, perhaps more than what went into production on the Pantera Si. Les, feel free to discuss while your update photos are being loaded - grin. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp When the styling of the Pantera (GT5-S) was considered for updating, DeTomaso created new front and rear sections. See one example, from Pantera 9494 in the registry. This car is also currently up for sale. I like the new rear styling, perhaps more than what went into production on the Pantera Si. Les, feel free to discuss while your update photos are being loaded - grin. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp [cid:image002.jpg@01D1FB9B.7A2D5930] References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp

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Rear wing
by Bob 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

I am not really sure if my rear wing actually has a lot of function. I have run with and without it at track events but we usually run from 125-140 and I cannot tell the difference. I have been told the angle is not steep enough. I did run silver state and hit 166 with everything feeling stable I think keeping the front planted is more important. I added acrylic to my chin spoiler Bob Benson Sent from my iPhone

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