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1974 DeTomaso Pantera 11, 000 Miles, Original Paint | Lot S95 | Monterey 2016 | Mecum Auctions
by Mike Drew 20 Aug '16

20 Aug '16

Guys, This car had an estimate of $130-170k which is ridiculously high. A Porsche buddy (we all have to have one of those) told me it wasn't reserve and sold for only $80k??? https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ The other was apparently a no-sale. Julian is there today--what's the word Julian? Mike Sent from my iPad

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Re: [DeTomaso] Paddle Shift Pantera on ebay
by Tomas Gunnarsson 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Gear cut perhaps? Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso [detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com] Sent: 18/8/2016 9:14:41 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Paddle Shift Pantera on ebay Interesting: De Tomaso: Other | | | | | | | | | | | De Tomaso: OtherUS $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift? Gear cut perhaps? Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso [detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com] Sent: 18/8/2016 9:14:41 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Paddle Shift Pantera on ebay Interesting: De Tomaso: Other | | | | | | | | | | | De Tomaso: OtherUS $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift?

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Bonhams Auction
by Jeff Detrich 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

There is a GTS at Bonham's today: http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23425/lot/23/ There is a GTS at Bonham's today: [1]http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23425/lot/23/A A References 1. http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23425/lot/23/

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Re: [DeTomaso] suspension changes
by Mike Drew 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Guy, Alignment settings changed first. The car was set up to understeer at the limit. Halfway through production the shocks were changed from quality Aristons (which I'm told are identical to Konis, perhaps built under license?) to cheaper non-adjustable Telecars. I don't think that had any effect on handling though. Sway bars were unchanged. Euro cars got a bigger rear bar as an option only, on the GTS. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Aug 18, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso(a)prodigy.net> wrote: > > Thanks all for the follow-up. Now this nugget: > "And retuning the suspension so it was a safer handling car" > I'm not aware of any changes to springs, shocks, anti-roll bars from 71 > to 74, did anything change ? > GD > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso(a)prodigy.net> > To: detomaso <DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 5:50 PM > Subject: [DeTomaso] L bumper stops wind noise ? > Over on Facebook "Motorology" someone is claiming the L bumper in > front > stopped a wind noise / buffeting issue. > Sounds like malarkey to me, but I don't have pre-L to make a > comparison > to. > Was this ever a thing ? > GD > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [1]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Candy, a Pantera racing Icon
by Ed Mendez 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

:-( On Aug 18, 2016, at 03:27 PM, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> wrote: Sorry to see this car move on to a new owner. Patrick has done a phenomenal job preserving this crucial piece of DeTomaso history as well as, through his campaigning of the car, has greatly enhanced the DeTomaso name in Europe and the rest of the world! There were 14 Factory Group 4/GT-4 cars built in total. Almost ALL of these were full competition cars and several of the " not so race prepared" (wink-wink) cars were in fact among the first 4 Panteras to compete at the 24hrs of LeMans in 1972. You will be missed in the grids Patrick !!!!!! Best regards, Leslie A. Gray On Aug 18, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Dick Koch <redcatman74(a)gmail.com> wrote: Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: [2]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.1000 00900252005&type=1&l=1b9dc81b39 Dick Koch - Atlanta References Visible links 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 2. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. :-( On Aug 18, 2016, at 03:27 PM, L GRAY <tipo874a(a)msn.com> wrote: Sorry to see this car move on to a new owner. Patrick has done a phenomenal job preserving this crucial piece of DeTomaso history as well as, through his campaigning of the car, has greatly enhanced the DeTomaso name in Europe and the rest of the world! There were 14 Factory Group 4/GT-4 cars built in total. Almost ALL of these were full competition cars and several of the " not so race prepared" (wink-wink) cars were in fact among the first 4 Panteras to compete at the 24hrs of LeMans in 1972. You will be missed in the grids Patrick !!!!!! Best regards, Leslie A. Gray On Aug 18, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Dick Koch <redcatman74(a)gmail.com> wrote: Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: [1][1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: [2][2]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.3509 7.1000 00900252005&type=1&l=1b9dc81b39 Dick Koch - Atlanta References Visible links 1. [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 2. [4]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.1 00000900252005&type=1&l=1b9dc81b39 Hidden links: 4. [5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 2. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.1000 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 4. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Candy, a Pantera racing Icon
by Dick Koch 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… Dick Koch - Atlanta <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0> Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: [2]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.1000 00900252005&type=1&l=1b9dc81b39 Dick Koch - Atlanta References Visible links 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 2. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0

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Re: [DeTomaso] Restoration of old albums
by laurieferrari＠aol.com 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Yes PLEASE.... that would be just great. I had so many pictures it would save a tremendous amount of time! Thanks AJ!!! Laurie Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:20:13 -0700 From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gold mine for POCA Message-ID: <20160817122013.Horde.G0HZrwGz-tmTcca27-UKQZ7(a)webmail.asajay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Chuck, Yes, problems occur and I agree it's good to have things like that published (if possible) in two or more locations. This is one of the concepts behind "mirroring" other web sites; in case one goes down, the other is still around. I'd like to point out that the "lost" images from the "infection" of the old POCA server were in fact recovered. Only four (as I recall) of the several thousand images were found to be infected, all others were just fine and a new album was put in place on the old server so folks could still access them. Terry Himes helped immensely in that effort and I'd like to thank him again for his work to recover those. I'm not sure what happened to them in the recent move from the old server to the new; I was hoping they were still available and just needed a little work to get them published again on the new site. If something drastic did happen to them. I think I know where a backup exists but will have to check. Are all the owners of those old photo galleries/albums interested in trying to restore those old albums? Asa Jay Yes PLEASE.... that would be just great. I had so many pictures it would save a tremendous amount of time! Thanks AJ!!! Laurie Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:20:13 -0700 From: Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay(a)asajay.com> To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gold mine for POCA Message-ID: <20160817122013.Horde.G0HZrwGz-tmTcca27-[3]UKQZ7(a)webmail.asajay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Chuck, Yes, problems occur and I agree it's good to have things like that published (if possible) in two or more locations. This is one of the concepts behind "mirroring" other web sites; in case one goes down, the other is still around. I'd like to point out that the "lost" images from the "infection" of the old POCA server were in fact recovered. Only four (as I recall) of the several thousand images were found to be infected, all others were just fine and a new album was put in place on the old server so folks could still access them. Terry Himes helped immensely in that effort and I'd like to thank him again for his work to recover those. I'm not sure what happened to them in the recent move from the old server to the new; I was hoping they were still available and just needed a little work to get them published again on the new site. If something drastic did happen to them. I think I know where a backup exists but will have to check. Are all the owners of those old photo galleries/albums interested in trying to restore those old albums? Asa Jay References 1. mailto:asajay@asajay.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:UKQZ7@webmail.asajay.com

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Pantera #3887 Review
by Dick Koch 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

For those that are interested, the following link provides a review of the Pantera on which I did a cursory inspection this past Sunday and some pictures of the car. After Mike Langston and I passed on buying the car, I was told it sold to someone in Texas. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.1073741858.10000… Dick Koch - Atlanta For those that are interested, the following link provides a review of the Pantera on which I did a cursory inspection this past Sunday and some pictures of the car. After Mike Langston and I passed on buying the car, I was told it sold to someone in Texas. [1]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.107374185 8.100000900252005&type=1&l=cebbefed29 Dick Koch - Atlanta References 1. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.1073741858.10000…

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Racecarsdirect.com - DE TOMASO FACTORY GROUP 4
by Mike Drew 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Guys, Patrick Hal's has put the Candy car up for sale. Great video embedded within.... https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/77144/de-tomaso-factory-group-4 Mike Sent from my iPad

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Paddle Shift Pantera on ebay
by Ken Green 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Interesting: De Tomaso: Other | | | | | | | | | | | De Tomaso: OtherUS $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift? Interesting: [1]De Tomaso: Other [2]image [3]De Tomaso: Other US $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso [4]View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift? References 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=…

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