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Selling Parts?
by Corey Price 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

Is there a better place to advertise some engine parts than this email forum? I don't usually see much advertised here. Not trying to step on toes or overstep my bounds if this is taboo. If taboo, my apologies. I have a 351C block with extensive work, some brand new Crane Cams roller lifters, and a Kevko fully baffled Pantera oil pan to sell. I have two 351C blocks and don't need to store both. The 351C block is bored to just under 0.020" over, sonic checked with minimal core shift, good thrust wall thickness, line honed, 4-bolt mains with ARP studs, CNC decked to a mirror finish and indexed to the crank, and the lifter bores were bushed via a CNC machine with orifices for hydraulic roller lifters. I have over $2000 into this block and I would like to recoup some of this so don't expect used block pricing. This would be a really great basis for a powerful engine! It hasn't been honed (intentionally) so someone could have it honed for the pistons and rings they will be using. I think I can ship this via truck freight. The Kevko pan is used but very limited use. All three items sold separately or I can lump them together. Please send me a private email if you're interested. Corey Is there a better place to advertise some engine parts than this email forum?A I don't usually see much advertised here.A Not trying to step on toes or overstep my bounds if this is taboo.A If taboo, my apologies. I have a 351C block with extensive work, some brand new Crane Cams roller lifters, and a Kevko fully baffled Pantera oil pan to sell.A I have two 351C blocks and don't need to store both.A The 351C block is bored to just under 0.020" over, sonic checked with minimal core shift, good thrust wall thickness, line honed, 4-bolt mains with ARP studs, CNC decked to a mirror finish and indexed to the crank, and the lifter bores were bushed via a CNC machine with orifices for hydraulic roller lifters.A I have over $2000 into this block and I would like to recoup some of this so don't expect used block pricing.A This would be a really great basis for a powerful engine!A It hasn't been honed (intentionally) so someone could have it honed for the pistons and rings they will be using.A I think I can ship this via truck freight. The Kevko pan is used but very limited use.A All three items sold separately or I can lump them together. Please send me a private email if you're interested. Corey

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Pantera on Big Easy Motors
by Dave 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

My friend, Charles Handler, co-owner of the Bomb Factory and star of the TV show, Big Easy Motors, asked me to post the below information: Hi My name is Charles Handler and I am the owner of the Bomb Factory in New Orleans. I wanted to post to your Pantera community to share my thoughts on the car we did on our show last week. First of all for the record- I love Panteras!! I have always wanted one and I wish I could afford one. We did one on the show because I love them so much and we had a chance to get the one we found. If I presented Panteras in a negative light, I am not sure where. They have known cooling issues as ours did. But rewatch the episode and see at the end where I say "the hardest part was letting that car go. I love those cars" that is totally true. Hang your hat on that statement FWIW. We had to create some drama with me saying the "parts may have to come from Italy" but we also showed repeatedly how the engine is made in the US and parts are easy to get. The research on the particular Pantera we did (which was not shown on camera) showed this to be an original west coast car that had only one small bit of rust in one rocker. Other then this and a few things like an antenna plug which we filled, the car is a solid original car that is unmolested and in extremely good condition. For the record, we are a high end paint and body shop and we put a show - quality finish on the car. Just because we did it in two weeks, does not mean we dont care or we are sloppy. We did excellent work on a car that needed little to be made beautiful. Please don't confuse the speed of a job with the care taken. We take extreme pride in our work and we put a lot of love into this Pantera. Finally, the sale price for the car is absolutely in line with the market for a solid original car with a fresh coat of paint and in perfect mechanical shape. There is nothing about the situation of the sale that is out of line with the market for these cars right now. I really truly wish I could afford a Pantera. I would prefer a 72 that is Orange with black rockers. Someday, I hope to own one of these. I am very glad to see so many passionate Pantera owners on this message board and I sincerely hope that each one of you all understands how much we love these cars and why we chose to do one on our show. Thanks Charles Handler Charles Handler Ph.D. President/Founder: Rocket-Hire www.Rocket-Hire.com 4537 North Robertson New Orleans, LA 70117 504-236-7259 chandler(a)rocket-hire.com My friend, Charles Handler, co-owner of the Bomb Factory and star of the TV show, Big Easy Motors, asked me to post the below information: Hi My name is Charles Handler and I am the owner of the Bomb Factory in New Orleans. I wanted to post to your Pantera community to share my thoughts on the car we did on our show last week. First of all for the record- I love Panteras!! I have always wanted one and I wish I could afford one. We did one on the show because I love them so much and we had a chance to get the one we found. If I presented Panteras in a negative light, I am not sure where. They have known cooling issues as ours did. But rewatch the episode and see at the end where I say "the hardest part was letting that car go. I love those cars" that is totally true. Hang your hat on that statement FWIW. We had to create some drama with me saying the "parts may have to come from Italy" but we also showed repeatedly how the engine is made in the US and parts are easy to get. The research on the particular Pantera we did (which was not shown on camera) showed this to be an original west coast car that had only one small bit of rust in one rocker. Other then this and a few things like an antenna plug which we filled, the car is a solid original car that is unmolested and in extremely good condition. For the record, we are a high end paint and body shop and we put a show - quality finish on the car. Just because we did it in two weeks, does not mean we dont care or we are sloppy. We did excellent work on a car that needed little to be made beautiful. Please don't confuse the speed of a job with the care taken. We take extreme pride in our work and we put a lot of love into this Pantera. Finally, the sale price for the car is absolutely in line with the market for a solid original car with a fresh coat of paint and in perfect mechanical shape. There is nothing about the situation of the sale that is out of line with the market for these cars right now. I really truly wish I could afford a Pantera. I would prefer a 72 that is Orange with black rockers. Someday, I hope to own one of these. I am very glad to see so many passionate Pantera owners on this message board and I sincerely hope that each one of you all understands how much we love these cars and why we chose to do one on our show. Thanks Charles Handler Charles Handler Ph.D. President/Founder: Rocket-Hire [1]www.Rocket-Hire.com 4537 North Robertson New Orleans, LA 70117 504-236-7259 [2]chandler(a)rocket-hire.com References 1. http://www.Rocket-Hire.com/ 2. mailto:chandler@rocket-hire.com

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Pantera on Big Easy Motors
by Dave 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

My friend, Charles Handler, co-owner of the Bomb Factory and star of the TV show, Big Easy Motors, asked me to post the below information: Hi My name is Charles Handler and I am the owner of the Bomb Factory in New Orleans. I wanted to post to your Pantera community to share my thoughts on the car we did on our show last week. First of all for the record- I love Panteras!! I have always wanted one and I wish I could afford one. We did one on the show because I love them so much and we had a chance to get the one we found. If I presented Panteras in a negative light, I am not sure where. They have known cooling issues as ours did. But rewatch the episode and see at the end where I say "the hardest part was letting that car go. I love those cars" that is totally true. Hang your hat on that statement FWIW. We had to create some drama with me saying the "parts may have to come from Italy" but we also showed repeatedly how the engine is made in the US and parts are easy to get. The research on the particular Pantera we did (which was not shown on camera) showed this to be an original west coast car that had only one small bit of rust in one rocker. Other then this and a few things like an antenna plug which we filled, the car is a solid original car that is unmolested and in extremely good condition. For the record, we are a high end paint and body shop and we put a show - quality finish on the car. Just because we did it in two weeks, does not mean we dont care or we are sloppy. We did excellent work on a car that needed little to be made beautiful. Please don't confuse the speed of a job with the care taken. We take extreme pride in our work and we put a lot of love into this Pantera. Finally, the sale price for the car is absolutely in line with the market for a solid original car with a fresh coat of paint and in perfect mechanical shape. There is nothing about the situation of the sale that is out of line with the market for these cars right now. I really truly wish I could afford a Pantera. I would prefer a 72 that is Orange with black rockers. Someday, I hope to own one of these. I am very glad to see so many passionate Pantera owners on this message board and I sincerely hope that each one of you all understands how much we love these cars and why we chose to do one on our show. Thanks Charles Handler Charles Handler Ph.D. President/Founder: Rocket-Hire www.Rocket-Hire.com 4537 North Robertson New Orleans, LA 70117 504-236-7259 chandler(a)rocket-hire.com My friend, Charles Handler, co-owner of the Bomb Factory and star of the TV show, Big Easy Motors, asked me to post the below information: Hi My name is Charles Handler and I am the owner of the Bomb Factory in New Orleans. I wanted to post to your Pantera community to share my thoughts on the car we did on our show last week. First of all for the record- I love Panteras!! I have always wanted one and I wish I could afford one. We did one on the show because I love them so much and we had a chance to get the one we found. If I presented Panteras in a negative light, I am not sure where. They have known cooling issues as ours did. But rewatch the episode and see at the end where I say "the hardest part was letting that car go. I love those cars" that is totally true. Hang your hat on that statement FWIW. We had to create some drama with me saying the "parts may have to come from Italy" but we also showed repeatedly how the engine is made in the US and parts are easy to get. The research on the particular Pantera we did (which was not shown on camera) showed this to be an original west coast car that had only one small bit of rust in one rocker. Other then this and a few things like an antenna plug which we filled, the car is a solid original car that is unmolested and in extremely good condition. For the record, we are a high end paint and body shop and we put a show - quality finish on the car. Just because we did it in two weeks, does not mean we dont care or we are sloppy. We did excellent work on a car that needed little to be made beautiful. Please don't confuse the speed of a job with the care taken. We take extreme pride in our work and we put a lot of love into this Pantera. Finally, the sale price for the car is absolutely in line with the market for a solid original car with a fresh coat of paint and in perfect mechanical shape. There is nothing about the situation of the sale that is out of line with the market for these cars right now. I really truly wish I could afford a Pantera. I would prefer a 72 that is Orange with black rockers. Someday, I hope to own one of these. I am very glad to see so many passionate Pantera owners on this message board and I sincerely hope that each one of you all understands how much we love these cars and why we chose to do one on our show. Thanks Charles Handler Charles Handler Ph.D. President/Founder: Rocket-Hire [1]www.Rocket-Hire.com 4537 North Robertson New Orleans, LA 70117 504-236-7259 [2]chandler(a)rocket-hire.com References 1. http://www.Rocket-Hire.com/ 2. mailto:chandler@rocket-hire.com

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Re: [DeTomaso] Selling Parts?
by Christopher Kimball 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

I agree as well. That adds to the "resource" aspect of the forum. Sincerely, Chris Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Charles McCall<mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com> Sent: ‎7/‎30/‎2016 12:27 AM To: 'Asa Jay Laughton'<mailto:asajay@asajay.com>; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Selling Parts? I agree with what Asa Jay has to say completely. I wouldn't like to see this turn into a Vendor glossy ad campaign, but I think it is quite interesting for them to answer a specific request and gives value to this list just like Larry does. People are looking to source a specific part and they learn where to do it and how much it costs. Everyone wins. I also, personally, think it's fine for individuals to advertise if they have things they'd like to get rid of. It helps put buyers and sellers in contact with each other, which is also value added. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton Sent: sábado, 30 de julio de 2016 6:25 To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Selling Parts? Corey, Generally speaking, I think we've had a lot of folks advertise on this email forum like this. For personal parts and stuff that you're selling or needing to buy, it's a great place to start. I think a quick post like what you made is just fine, and don't forget to post on POCA and PI forums. On the flip side, I think it's generally accepted that we don't advertise businesses or business parts on a regular basis. But look look at how Larry Stock has been doing it... I think that works very well in the construct of this email forum. Larry has been responding to some posts with (basically) "hey, we got that" as he owns Pantera Parts Connection. It's not like he's taking out an ad, but more like he's saying if someone really needs one, he's got one. It's not like the ad emails that come in every day from other outside vendors that you just purchased one part from. It's like me popping in and saying hey, I have one of those on the shelf as a spare and I'm willing to sell it to you. I'd enjoy seeing other vendors pop in once in a while and do the same thing. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 7/29/2016 5:01 PM, Corey Price wrote: Is there a better place to advertise some engine parts than this email forum?A I don't usually see much advertised here.A Not trying to step on toes or overstep my bounds if this is taboo.A If taboo, my apologies. I have a 351C block with extensive work, some brand new Crane Cams roller lifters, and a Kevko fully baffled Pantera oil pan to sell.A I have two 351C blocks and don't need to store both.A The 351C block is bored to just under 0.020" over, sonic checked with minimal core shift, good thrust wall thickness, line honed, 4-bolt mains with ARP studs, CNC decked to a mirror finish and indexed to the crank, and the lifter bores were bushed via a CNC machine with orifices for hydraulic roller lifters.A I have over $2000 into this block and I would like to recoup some of this so don't expect used block pricing.A This would be a really great basis for a powerful engine!A It hasn't been honed (intentionally) so someone could have it honed for the pistons and rings they will be using.A I think I can ship this via truck freight. The Kevko pan is used but very limited use.A All three items sold separately or I can lump them together. Please send me a private email if you're interested. Corey _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [5]www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7690 / Virus Database: 4627/12709 - Release Date: 07/29/16 References 1. http://w7tsc.org/ 2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. http://www.avg.com/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I agree as well. That adds to the "resource" aspect of the forum. Sincerely, Chris Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Charles McCall Sent: 7/30/2016 12:27 AM To: [2]'Asa Jay Laughton'; [3]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Selling Parts? I agree with what Asa Jay has to say completely. I wouldn't like to see this turn into a Vendor glossy ad campaign, but I think it is quite interesting for them to answer a specific request and gives value to this list just like Larry does. People are looking to source a specific part and they learn where to do it and how much it costs. Everyone wins. I also, personally, think it's fine for individuals to advertise if they have things they'd like to get rid of. It helps put buyers and sellers in contact with each other, which is also value added. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton Sent: sabado, 30 de julio de 2016 6:25 To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Selling Parts? Corey, Generally speaking, I think we've had a lot of folks advertise on this email forum like this. For personal parts and stuff that you're selling or needing to buy, it's a great place to start. I think a quick post like what you made is just fine, and don't forget to post on POCA and PI forums. On the flip side, I think it's generally accepted that we don't advertise businesses or business parts on a regular basis. But look look at how Larry Stock has been doing it... I think that works very well in the construct of this email forum. Larry has been responding to some posts with (basically) "hey, we got that" as he owns Pantera Parts Connection. It's not like he's taking out an ad, but more like he's saying if someone really needs one, he's got one. It's not like the ad emails that come in every day from other outside vendors that you just purchased one part from. It's like me popping in and saying hey, I have one of those on the shelf as a spare and I'm willing to sell it to you. I'd enjoy seeing other vendors pop in once in a while and do the same thing. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 7/29/2016 5:01 PM, Corey Price wrote: Is there a better place to advertise some engine parts than this email forum?A I don't usually see much advertised here.A Not trying to step on toes or overstep my bounds if this is taboo.A If taboo, my apologies. I have a 351C block with extensive work, some brand new Crane Cams roller lifters, and a Kevko fully baffled Pantera oil pan to sell.A I have two 351C blocks and don't need to store both.A The 351C block is bored to just under 0.020" over, sonic checked with minimal core shift, good thrust wall thickness, line honed, 4-bolt mains with ARP studs, CNC decked to a mirror finish and indexed to the crank, and the lifter bores were bushed via a CNC machine with orifices for hydraulic roller lifters.A I have over $2000 into this block and I would like to recoup some of this so don't expect used block pricing.A This would be a really great basis for a powerful engine!A It hasn't been honed (intentionally) so someone could have it honed for the pistons and rings they will be using.A I think I can ship this via truck freight. The Kevko pan is used but very limited use.A All three items sold separately or I can lump them together. Please send me a private email if you're interested. Corey _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [5]www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7690 / Virus Database: 4627/12709 - Release Date: 07/29/16 References 1. [5]http://w7tsc.org/ 2. [6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 3. [7]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. 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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - USA Today filmed my 1949 Mercury "Woodie"
by Christopher Kimball 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

Very cool! Chris Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Scott Couchman via DeTomaso<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: ‎7/‎30/‎2016 2:53 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - USA Today filmed my 1949 Mercury "Woodie" The USA Today Just Cool Cars team liked my 1949 Mercury Station wagon. My 15 seconds of Internet video fame....:-) Look, I can't drive the Pantera to Cars&Coffee every week! http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/06/11/just-cool-cars-49-mercu… _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Very cool! Chris Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Scott Couchman via DeTomaso Sent: 7/30/2016 2:53 AM To: [2]detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - USA Today filmed my 1949 Mercury "Woodie" The USA Today Just Cool Cars team liked my 1949 Mercury Station wagon. My 15 seconds of Internet video fame....:-) Look, I can't drive the Pantera to Cars&Coffee every week! [3]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/06/11/just-cool-cars-4 9-mercury-wagon-hasnt-aged-day/85739834/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com 3. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/06/11/just-cool-cars-49-mercu… 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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De Tomaso Mangusta on eBay
by Jeff Cobb 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

THIS IS THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.... VERY EARLY PRODUCTION MANGUSTA (HAS BOSS 302 ENGINE), Really, a Boss? http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Mangusta-/222201023039?forcerrptr=true&ha… 1969 De Tomaso Mangusta Price: US $425,000.00 Buy It Now Would be nice to get that amount, no reason not to after some interior spiff up is done. THIS IS THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.... VERY EARLY PRODUCTION MANGUSTA (HAS BOSS 302 ENGINE), Really, a Boss? [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Mangusta-/222201023039?forcerrptr= true&hash=item33bc368a3f:g:4BwAAOSw0fhXl9ZV&item=222201023039 1969 De Tomaso Mangusta Price: US $425,000.00 [2]Buy It Now Would be nice to get that amount, no reason not to after some interior spiff up is done. References 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Mangusta-/222201023039?forcerrptr=true&ha… 2. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?BinConfirm&rev=4&fromPage=2047675&it…

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NPC double mail??
by B Hower 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

I am getting two identical emails sometimes ? But not from Larry. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) I am getting two identical emails sometimes ? But not from Larry. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

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Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content
by Tomas Gunnarsson 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

But most car transmissions also have all gears in constant mesh. You move a sleeve to connect one pair of gears to the axles at a time. One of the gears in each pair is constantly engaged to its axle. The difference has to be in how the gears engage and disengage to the axles Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift(a)hotmail.com] Sent: 29/7/2016 9:39:21 PM To: charlesmccall@gmail.com;pmenyhart@msn.com;detomaso@detomasolist.com;deto maso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Charlie, Yes the older British cars often lack a syncro in 1st (and reverse is not usually a syncro either). Shifting a non syncro requires getting the gears that are to be meshed spinning at roughly the same speed, best achieved via double clutching or knowing what revs to shift at (18 wheelers are all non syncro boxes, most truckers can shift without use of a clutch). You could try this in your folks MG-TD, i recommend some distance from their house until you have it down [??] The main difference in a motorcycle gearbox is it is a "constant mesh" i.e. all the gears are constantly meshed and spinning(no syncro required to spin up the gears). It is also sequential so shifting through the gears in order without ability bypass a gear (other than neutral to second as neutral is half click between first and second). Julian ________________________________ From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:56 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Peter Menyhart'; 'pantera forum'; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Julian-- educate me if you do''t mind. You say that motorcycle gearboxes are non syncromesh. My folks have a 1952 MG-TD that has syncromesh in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, but not first. When you come to a stop, if you have''t come to a COMPLETE stop i''ll crunch when you put it in first. It wo''t crunch if you put it in second and I was told that this was due to the lack of syncromesh. If this is true, why does''t my bike crunch when putting it in first while still rolling? From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: viernes, 29 de julio de 2016 17:10 To: Peter Menyhart; Charles McCall; pantera forum; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Charles, I would postulate it is because a motorcycle gearbox is already a "race box", i.e. non syncromesh, dog box with straight cut gears, which is essentially the simplest and lightest gearbox you can get. Shifting without the clutch is fairly universal on race bikes and similar to race cars permitted by the straight cut gear design. Motorcycle clutches are now dry (whereas yours is probably a wet clutch) and much lighter design and I would only use the very lightest clutch pressure on my street bike (Ducati superbike) just to take the pressure off the gears. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server .detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Peter Menyhart <pmenyhart(a)msn.com<mailto:pmenyhart@msn.com>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 5:29 AM To: Charles McCall; pantera forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Interesting question, when I'm in Germany in september I'll ask my brother.He works in development at BMW Motorcycle and also races vintage Wankel bikes. I think your right,the weight gain is probably too much. Peter check out our website at: www.whitehorseranch.com<http://www.whitehorseranch.com> From: charlesmccall(a)gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 09:45:11 +0200 To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Motorcycle ramblings with a question at the end.... The weather has been absolutely fantastic here for the past few weeks, so I have been using my motorcycle for my daily commute to and from work. It's recently back on the road after more or less being in storage for 18 years. It is true that long term storage isn't good for vehicles - either cars or motorcycles. I filled the tank up with gas and it all ran right on the floor... hoses that had disintegrated with time. Got that repaired. The gas on the floor was mixing with a massive oil leak caused by a gasket on the cam tensioner that dried out and cracked. Got that fixed. I'm glad my motorcycle is air-cooled or I know what would be leaking now! We didn't get off to a good start this year! The motorcycle is a 1982 Suzuki GS650, nothing particularly special but with a lot of sentimental value. I bought it when I was 19 and a college sophomore. I'd never been on a motorcycle in my life - neither as a passenger nor a driver. I walked into the local Suzuki dealer and said "I like that one, I'll buy it!" and paid for it with my visa card, at 19.6% interest. And I wonder why it took me so long to pay off my college loans? ;-) We went to the parking lot and the salesman told me "This is the clutch, here's how you change gears, this is the front brake....have fun!" And I learned how to drive on the way home. Ah, youth! The motorcycle has been all over the place. I went to Cornell University, in upstate NY, and my girlfriend at the time went to Michigan, so it made the trip many times. It's attended Sturgis (despite being a Japanese bike, but I drove it there unlike many of the Harleys!) prowled the streets of Chicago, etc. But it got put into storage when I moved to Europe and took a long time to catch up to me. It recently was made road-worthy and is still wearing US plates, although I'll have to fix that over the next year. It is very difficult and very expensive to insure a vehicle in Europe with US plates. But for those from the US or Canada attending Le Mans Classic - -IT CAN BE DONE! Anyway, my question. The tendency in race cars and sports cars is moving away from a manual transmission to an automatic. I know that isn't quite true but don't really care if there is still technically a clutch or not - if there isn't a clutch pedal inside, then it's an automatic! Why hasn't the same thing happened with motorcycles? Because the shift time on a motorcycle is already so short? Do racers even use the clutch on a race bike? The weight associated with the mechanism is a larger percentage of a light bike as opposed to a car? Just wondering this morning, as it was a nice morning for a ride and as there's no radio my mind went wandering... _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. But most car transmissions also have all gears in constant mesh. You move a sleeve to connect one pair of gears to the axles at a time. One of the gears in each pair is constantly engaged to its axle. The difference has to be in how the gears engage and disengage to the axles Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift(a)hotmail.com] Sent: 29/7/2016 9:39:21 PM To: charlesmccall@gmail.com;pmenyhart@msn.com;detomaso@detomasolist.com;det omaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Charlie, Yes the older British cars often lack a syncro in 1st (and reverse is not usually a syncro either). Shifting a non syncro requires getting the gears that are to be meshed spinning at roughly the same speed, best achieved via double clutching or knowing what revs to shift at (18 wheelers are all non syncro boxes, most truckers can shift without use of a clutch). You could try this in your folks MG-TD, i recommend some distance from their house until you have it down [😉?] The main difference in a motorcycle gearbox is it is a "constant mesh" i.e. all the gears are constantly meshed and spinning(no syncro required to spin up the gears). It is also sequential so shifting through the gears in order without ability bypass a gear (other than neutral to second as neutral is half click between first and second). Julian ________________________________ From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:56 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Peter Menyhart'; 'pantera forum'; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Julian-- educate me if you do''t mind. You say that motorcycle gearboxes are non syncromesh. My folks have a 1952 MG-TD that has syncromesh in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, but not first. When you come to a stop, if you have''t come to a COMPLETE stop i''ll crunch when you put it in first. It wo''t crunch if you put it in second and I was told that this was due to the lack of syncromesh. If this is true, why does''t my bike crunch when putting it in first while still rolling? From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: viernes, 29 de julio de 2016 17:10 To: Peter Menyhart; Charles McCall; pantera forum; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Charles, I would postulate it is because a motorcycle gearbox is already a "race box", i.e. non syncromesh, dog box with straight cut gears, which is essentially the simplest and lightest gearbox you can get. Shifting without the clutch is fairly universal on race bikes and similar to race cars permitted by the straight cut gear design. Motorcycle clutches are now dry (whereas yours is probably a wet clutch) and much lighter design and I would only use the very lightest clutch pressure on my street bike (Ducati superbike) just to take the pressure off the gears. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@serve r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Peter Menyhart <pmenyhart(a)msn.com<mailto:pmenyhart@msn.com>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 5:29 AM To: Charles McCall; pantera forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Interesting question, when I'm in Germany in september I'll ask my brother.He works in development at BMW Motorcycle and also races vintage Wankel bikes. I think your right,the weight gain is probably too much. Peter check out our website at: www.whitehorseranch.com<http://www.whitehorseranch.com> From: charlesmccall(a)gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 09:45:11 +0200 To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Absolutely zero DT content Motorcycle ramblings with a question at the end.... The weather has been absolutely fantastic here for the past few weeks, so I have been using my motorcycle for my daily commute to and from work. It's recently back on the road after more or less being in storage for 18 years. It is true that long term storage isn't good for vehicles - either cars or motorcycles. I filled the tank up with gas and it all ran right on the floor... hoses that had disintegrated with time. Got that repaired. The gas on the floor was mixing with a massive oil leak caused by a gasket on the cam tensioner that dried out and cracked. Got that fixed. I'm glad my motorcycle is air-cooled or I know what would be leaking now! We didn't get off to a good start this year! The motorcycle is a 1982 Suzuki GS650, nothing particularly special but with a lot of sentimental value. I bought it when I was 19 and a college sophomore. I'd never been on a motorcycle in my life - neither as a passenger nor a driver. I walked into the local Suzuki dealer and said "I like that one, I'll buy it!" and paid for it with my visa card, at 19.6% interest. And I wonder why it took me so long to pay off my college loans? ;-) We went to the parking lot and the salesman told me "This is the clutch, here's how you change gears, this is the front brake....have fun!" And I learned how to drive on the way home. Ah, youth! The motorcycle has been all over the place. I went to Cornell University, in upstate NY, and my girlfriend at the time went to Michigan, so it made the trip many times. It's attended Sturgis (despite being a Japanese bike, but I drove it there unlike many of the Harleys!) prowled the streets of Chicago, etc. But it got put into storage when I moved to Europe and took a long time to catch up to me. It recently was made road-worthy and is still wearing US plates, although I'll have to fix that over the next year. It is very difficult and very expensive to insure a vehicle in Europe with US plates. But for those from the US or Canada attending Le Mans Classic - -IT CAN BE DONE! Anyway, my question. The tendency in race cars and sports cars is moving away from a manual transmission to an automatic. I know that isn't quite true but don't really care if there is still technically a clutch or not - if there isn't a clutch pedal inside, then it's an automatic! Why hasn't the same thing happened with motorcycles? Because the shift time on a motorcycle is already so short? Do racers even use the clutch on a race bike? The weight associated with the mechanism is a larger percentage of a light bike as opposed to a car? Just wondering this morning, as it was a nice morning for a ride and as there's no radio my mind went wandering... _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.co m> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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NPC: if only
by Mike Thomas 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

This is just too funny not to send. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 <https://www.facebook.com/Motomaxx-Remscheid-GmbhCoKG-251068748381537/> https://www.facebook.com/Motomaxx-Remscheid-GmbhCoKG-251068748381537/ watch the video clip in the web page substitute your fantasy vehicle ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity <https://admin.exchangedefender.com/verify.php?id=u6SLZJrC001408&from=nate@a rchthom.com> This is just too funny not to send. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 [1]https://www.facebook.com/Motomaxx-Remscheid-GmbhCoKG-25106874838153 7/ watch the video clip in the web page substitute your fantasy vehicle ExchangeDefender Message Security: [2]Check Authenticity References 1. https://www.facebook.com/Motomaxx-Remscheid-GmbhCoKG-251068748381537/ 2. https://admin.exchangedefender.com/verify.php?id=u6SLZJrC001408&from=nate@a…

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Re: [DeTomaso] Rejected.....Fwd: Your Ford GT Application
by marshall smith 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Hey Scott A friend who works at Ford told me your GT application was passed by because Ford thought you were friends with Michael Shortt. Just the messenger... Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 7/28/16, Daryl Adams <daryl.architect(a)gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rejected.....Fwd: Your Ford GT Application To: "Michael Barnes" <michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk> Cc: "Detomaso Email List" <detomaso(a)detomasolist.com> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2016, 8:48 AM I withdrew my Ford GT application once I found out about the procedure and cost for scheduled maintenance (not that they would have sold me one anyway) On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:55 AM, Michael Barnes <[1]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: A A Maybe pay $100K more from aA stealership ?there are bound to be a few A A available A A Sent from Michael's iPhone A A On 28 Jul 2016, at 11:38, Scott Couchman <[1][2]scottcouchman(a)yahoo.com> A A wrote: A A I even made a personal pitch to Raj Nair when I talked with him at Le A A Mans 24h. I suggested being at Le Mans to cheer on the team should A A count for something. He was very nice and asked if I was there with the A A Ford GT owners group. A A Ford GT ownership seemed to be key. I really don't understand that A A criteria since very few of those cars get driven. If Ford wants them to A A become museum pieces, just donate them to 250 car museums. A A Anyway, he told me I needed to talk with Henry Ford 3. Apparently, he A A was charged with making the selections. I think he was at Le Mans, but A A I never crossed paths with him, and that must have sealed my fate! :-( A A at least you got to see what the rejection letter said. Oh well, if you A A don't show up, you don't get to play. Rejection is part of the game. A A On Jul 28, 2016, at 3:14 AM, Charles McCall A A <[2][3]charlesmccall(a)gmail.com> wrote: A A I agree! And I was looking forward to seeing your new car :-) A A On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Michael Barnes A A <[3][4]michaelbarnessrt10(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: A A A Damn A A A Sent from Michael's iPhone A A A > On 28 Jul 2016, at 10:35, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso A A A <[4][5]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A A > A A A >A A Rejection letter from Ford! A A A >A A Begin forwarded message: A A A > A A A >A A From: Program HQ <[1][5][6]application(a)fordgtapplication.com> A A A >A A Date: July 28, 2016 at 12:06:18 AM PDT A A A >A A To: <[2][6][7]scottcouchman(a)yahoo.com> A A A >A A Subject: Your Ford GT Application A A A > A A A >A A [header1.jpg] A A A > A A A >A A Dear Scott, A A A >A A Thank you for your interest in purchasing a Ford GT! A A A >A A We are thrilled that you share our passion for performance and A A A the A A A >A A all-new Ford GT. A A A >A A The demand for Ford GT from enthusiasts like you has surpassed A A A our very A A A >A A limited production. 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