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ARE Wheels for sale
by mark skwarek 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

| | | | August 02, 2016 09:35 AM | ARE Wheels 17x11 and 17x8 Great condition $800 Can deliver along I 80 between Arnold, NE and CT on Aug 14-15 or Mid Sept between CT and Las Vegas, NV, Mark | | | | | August 02, 2016 09:35 AM | | [1][blank.gif] August 02, 2016 09:35 AM ARE Wheels 17x11 and 17x8 Great condition $800 Can deliver along I 80 between Arnold, NE and CT on Aug 14-15 or Mid Sept between CT and Las Vegas, NV, Mark [2][blank.gif] August 02, 2016 09:35 AM References 1. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4250045562/m/1981006856?r=1981… 2. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4250045562/m/1981006856?r=1981…

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NPC:Test
by Dave Londry 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

I'm not seeing my posts. If you see this, but no other responses, please reply to the forum. Thanks Dave

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NPC Test response
by Dave Londry 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

Thanks Guys. I saw it too, so I guess I'm fine now. Maybe my stuff was getting burned at my SMTP host. I'll go dig up the stuff that didn't go in case there was anything useful there. Dave

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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: WSJ Porsche article
by Charles Engles 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Dear Audio, Well......it is excellent prose, but it is meant tongue in cheek. His articles are part old classic Car&Driver, part old classic Road&Track and part automotive prose, IMHO. It is certainly not your common car article.......! Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of audionut(a)hushmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:21 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: WSJ Porsche article Yikes. Excessively flowery prose there. And coming from someone claiming to be modest in nature. I feel like I just ate an entire chocolate creme pie covered entirely in maraschino cherries. "I mean, there I am with my perfect silver streak, Persol sunglasses and reasonable body-mass index, wheeling oh-so-expertly the 2017 Porsche 718 Boxster S, the snarl of this fine little dragon rending the suburban veil." Dude. It's okay. Just throw on that wig and high heels you have stashed away in your basement and let 'er rip! Sent using Hushmail On July 31, 2016 at 1:03 PM, "Charles Engles" wrote:Dear Forum, I offer some excerpts from the WSJ automotive column of Dan Neil from this weekend: "The Sultrier Snarl of the Turbo Porsche Boxster". "As scripture counsels, I am a modest person. So I have never quite shaken the feeling that, maybe, bombing around town in a flashy drop-top sports car was showing off. A bit, don't you think? I mean, there I am with my perfect silver streak, Persol sunglasses and reasonable body-mass index, wheeling oh-so-expertly the 2017 Porsche 718 Boxster S, the snarl of this fine little dragon rending the suburban veil. Arch and artful, smart and fine, the midengine, two-seat Boxster is the company's starter sports car. The 2017 model adds slinkiness with available 18, 19 or 20 inch wheels press-fit into the wheel wells. Fancy schmanzy. I bet a lot of people think, "hey, there's someone who works at a Porsche dealership." Perhaps they think I am what they used to call an available gentleman? Curbside clinicians will diagnose midlife crisis, and they would be spot-on. This look would also work well for the owner of a chain of hair salons. But some, a cultivated few, will cup an ear, waiting to hear the new turbocharged Boxster under way. They will note the car's more concussive idle-the flat-four engine inherently has more of a discernible pulse than the previous six, even a bit of VW chuff-overdubbed with the distinctive chinning of the Porsche's valvetrain. And cooling fans, lots of fans. Perhaps these observers will linger over the sound of me romping it, all flourishing tom-toms and tenor trombones pitching up to the satisfyingly instant first-to-second upshift, over 7,000 revs Not loud, not furious, but murderously precise and sultry. After a moment, I expect these connoisseurs will approve. Then they can go back to hating me. ------So,yeah, turbochargers. Trouble is ,turbos sap energy from the engine's exhaust-gas stream, which means less sound pressure, less of an aural presence. In a word: volume. There will be purists who walk away from this vastly fast, quicker, roundly superior Boxster only because they prefer the dinosaur trill of the previous engine. Here is where Porsche's engineering and my Amish sense of modesty meet. Thanks to a lot of clever engineering-including an acoustic channel from the engine bay to just above the driver's left shoulder-the Boxster S sounds much more fierce from the driver's seat than it does outside the car.. As my wife drove off in it, I realized how short a distance the sound carried. There is a pretty huge difference in gestalt. You know what? I am fine with a technical outcome that allows the driver's experience to be rich and vivid, without unduly imposing on those around him. The problem with driving an aggressively loud open-top sports car is that, when people look around for the jerk, they can easily see you. Oops, sorry. Please, return to your outdoor memorial service. " Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

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Absolutely zero DT content
by Charles McCall 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Motorcycle ramblings with a question at the end.... The weather has been absolutely fantastic here for the past few weeks, so I have been using my motorcycle for my daily commute to and from work. It's recently back on the road after more or less being in storage for 18 years. It is true that long term storage isn't good for vehicles - either cars or motorcycles. I filled the tank up with gas and it all ran right on the floor... hoses that had disintegrated with time. Got that repaired. The gas on the floor was mixing with a massive oil leak caused by a gasket on the cam tensioner that dried out and cracked. Got that fixed. I'm glad my motorcycle is air-cooled or I know what would be leaking now! We didn't get off to a good start this year! The motorcycle is a 1982 Suzuki GS650, nothing particularly special but with a lot of sentimental value. I bought it when I was 19 and a college sophomore. I'd never been on a motorcycle in my life - neither as a passenger nor a driver. I walked into the local Suzuki dealer and said "I like that one, I'll buy it!" and paid for it with my visa card, at 19.6% interest. And I wonder why it took me so long to pay off my college loans? ;-) We went to the parking lot and the salesman told me "This is the clutch, here's how you change gears, this is the front brake....have fun!" And I learned how to drive on the way home. Ah, youth! The motorcycle has been all over the place. I went to Cornell University, in upstate NY, and my girlfriend at the time went to Michigan, so it made the trip many times. It's attended Sturgis (despite being a Japanese bike, but I drove it there unlike many of the Harleys!) prowled the streets of Chicago, etc. But it got put into storage when I moved to Europe and took a long time to catch up to me. It recently was made road-worthy and is still wearing US plates, although I'll have to fix that over the next year. It is very difficult and very expensive to insure a vehicle in Europe with US plates. But for those from the US or Canada attending Le Mans Classic - -IT CAN BE DONE! Anyway, my question. The tendency in race cars and sports cars is moving away from a manual transmission to an automatic. I know that isn't quite true but don't really care if there is still technically a clutch or not - if there isn't a clutch pedal inside, then it's an automatic! Why hasn't the same thing happened with motorcycles? Because the shift time on a motorcycle is already so short? Do racers even use the clutch on a race bike? The weight associated with the mechanism is a larger percentage of a light bike as opposed to a car? Just wondering this morning, as it was a nice morning for a ride and as there's no radio my mind went wandering... Motorcycle ramblings with a question at the end.... The weather has been absolutely fantastic here for the past few weeks, so I have been using my motorcycle for my daily commute to and from work. It's recently back on the road after more or less being in storage for 18 years. It is true that long term storage isn't good for vehicles - either cars or motorcycles. I filled the tank up with gas and it all ran right on the floor... hoses that had disintegrated with time. Got that repaired.A The gas on the floor was mixing with a massive oil leak caused by a gasket on the cam tensioner that dried out and cracked. Got that fixed.A I'm glad my motorcycle is air-cooled or I know what would be leaking now! We didn't get off to a good start this year! The motorcycle is a 1982 Suzuki GS650, nothing particularly special but with a lot of sentimental value. I bought it when I was 19 and a college sophomore. I'd never been on a motorcycle in my life - neither as a passenger nor a driver. I walked into the local Suzuki dealer and said "I like that one, I'll buy it!" and paid for it with my visa card, at 19.6% interest. And I wonder why it took me so long to pay off my college loans? ;-) We went to the parking lot and the salesman told me "This is the clutch, here's how you change gears, this is the front brake....have fun!" And I learned how to drive on the way home. Ah, youth! The motorcycle has been all over the place. I went to Cornell University, in upstate NY, and my girlfriend at the time went to Michigan, so it made the trip many times. It's attended Sturgis (despite being a Japanese bike, but I drove it there unlike many of the Harleys!) prowled the streets of Chicago, etc. But it got put into storage when I moved to Europe and took a long time to catch up to me. It recently was made road-worthy and is still wearing US plates, although I'll have to fix that over the next year. It is very difficult and very expensive to insure a vehicle in Europe with US plates. But for those from the US or Canada attending Le Mans Classic - -IT CAN BE DONE! Anyway, my question. The tendency in race cars and sports cars is moving away from a manual transmission to an automatic. I know that isn't quite true but don't really care if there is still technically a clutch or not - if there isn't a clutch pedal inside, then it's an automatic! Why hasn't the same thing happened with motorcycles? Because the shift time on a motorcycle is already so short? Do racers even use the clutch on a race bike? The weight associated with the mechanism is a larger percentage of a light bike as opposed to a car? A Just wondering this morning, as it was a nice morning for a ride and as there's no radio my mind went wandering...

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Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs?
by Ken Green 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Thanks Lynn, That is very similar to my plans based on the structure under the hood. A drawing is attached. It's nice to know that Bob thinks this makes sense. Ken From: Lynn Wall <lwall67(a)gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:08 AM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? #yiv5250686963 #yiv5250686963 -- _filtered #yiv5250686963 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5250686963 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5250686963 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv5250686963 #yiv5250686963 p.yiv5250686963MsoNormal, #yiv5250686963 li.yiv5250686963MsoNormal, #yiv5250686963 div.yiv5250686963MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv5250686963 a:link, #yiv5250686963 span.yiv5250686963MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5250686963 a:visited, #yiv5250686963 span.yiv5250686963MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5250686963 span.yiv5250686963EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv5250686963 .yiv5250686963MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv5250686963 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv5250686963 div.yiv5250686963WordSection1 {}#yiv5250686963 Nope, no study. I had a hood with a very wrinkled skin due to an accident. The vents were cut out in the right spot, per Bob Byars (his guy did the work) and that happened to cover the damaged portion of the hood. Can’t find the pictures of my actual hood but I did find pictures of the car that was the inspiration. The pictures are huge so I know the list will strip them. Let me know if you get them Ken. Lynn From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:09 AM To: Lynn Wall <lwall67(a)gmail.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Lynn, Did you do much research on the pressure distribution over the hood at high speed? Do you have photos of the modifications you made? Ken From: Lynn Wall <lwall67(a)gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 6:23 AM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Hey Rod, I had a problem with my hood where it made it easier to install large "GT40" style vents then to restore the hood to stock. I too had to remove my light bar to make room but I love the look and the fit. To make the lights function I ordered the following from Detroit speed. They demonstrated the product at SEMA and then I had to wait for them to finish the design and put it into production. http://www.detroitspeed.com/1963-1967-Corvette-Products/122006-headlight-do… Kind of expensive but the engineering is incredible and it works VERY smooth. We are in the process of doing the final install. I had some custom brackets made so that they can be installed with or without the fenders on (my passenger fender is off and my driver fender is on). By the way I am using Kirks kit that lowers the headlight buckets. The mechanism does not require any limit switches as all of that works within the system based on load and resistance. Great product. If you are interested and would like to order a set of the brackets let me know. I do not sell them (my body and paint guy does) and I do not have a financial interest in them. Hope that gives you options. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:17 PM To: Rod Kunishige <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com>; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Hi Rod, My plan is to modify the area behind the radiator for a large vent. I'm taking out the light bar and will go to two motors or just clear covers, haven't decided yet. I took some rough measurements and plan to move the front of the trunk to where the flat part of the floor ends. That gives me about 24 inches from the nose without losing much useful storage. Kinda similar to what Gary did: http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/hood/hood15.jpg | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | View on http://www.rc-tech.net/ | Preview by Yahoo | | | | A drawing is attached showing the current plan. Ken From: Rod Kunishige <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> To: "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:08 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Ken, I have a 73L with factory vents and a spare solid hood against the wall for you to measure should you choose to do so. I wanted a GT40 look. The problem for me was the light bar located in the wrong spot for a better opening. I even thought of having two bucket motors to eliminate it. Art had tried various designs on his hood taking pics as he went thru the process. Check with him too. Rod Sent from [1]Outlook References 1. http://aka.ms/weboutlook _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Thanks Lynn, That is very similar to my plans based on the structure under the hood. A drawing is attached. It's nice to know that Bob thinks this makes sense. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Lynn Wall <lwall67(a)gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:08 AM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Nope, no study. I had a hood with a very wrinkled skin due to an accident. The vents were cut out in the right spot, per Bob Byars (his guy did the work) and that happened to cover the damaged portion of the hood. Canat find the pictures of my actual hood but I did find pictures of the car that was the inspiration. The pictures are huge so I know the list will strip them. Let me know if you get them Ken. Lynn From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:09 AM To: Lynn Wall <lwall67(a)gmail.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Lynn, Did you do much research on the pressure distribution over the hood at high speed? Do you have photos of the modifications you made? Ken _______________________________________________________________________ From: Lynn Wall <[1]lwall67(a)gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <[2]kenn_green(a)yahoo.com>; 'Rod Kunishige' <[3]rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> Cc: [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 6:23 AM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Hey Rod, I had a problem with my hood where it made it easier to install large "GT40" style vents then to restore the hood to stock. I too had to remove my light bar to make room but I love the look and the fit. To make the lights function I ordered the following from Detroit speed. They demonstrated the product at SEMA and then I had to wait for them to finish the design and put it into production. [5]http://www.detroitspeed.com/1963-1967-Corvette-Products/122006-headl ight-door-kit.html Kind of expensive but the engineering is incredible and it works VERY smooth. We are in the process of doing the final install. I had some custom brackets made so that they can be installed with or without the fenders on (my passenger fender is off and my driver fender is on). By the way I am using Kirks kit that lowers the headlight buckets. The mechanism does not require any limit switches as all of that works within the system based on load and resistance. Great product. If you are interested and would like to order a set of the brackets let me know. I do not sell them (my body and paint guy does) and I do not have a financial interest in them. Hope that gives you options. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:17 PM To: Rod Kunishige <[7]rkunishige(a)hotmail.com>; [8]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Hi Rod, My plan is to modify the area behind the radiator for a large vent. I'm taking out the light bar and will go to two motors or just clear covers, haven't decided yet. I took some rough measurements and plan to move the front of the trunk to where the flat part of the floor ends. That gives me about 24 inches from the nose without losing much useful storage. Kinda similar to what Gary did: [9]http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/hood/hood15.jpg | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | View on [10]http://www.rc-tech.net/ | Preview by Yahoo | | | | A drawing is attached showing the current plan. Ken From: Rod Kunishige <[11]rkunishige(a)hotmail.com> To: "[12]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <[13]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:08 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? Ken, I have a 73L with factory vents and a spare solid hood against the wall for you to measure should you choose to do so. I wanted a GT40 look. The problem for me was the light bar located in the wrong spot for a better opening. I even thought of having two bucket motors to eliminate it. Art had tried various designs on his hood taking pics as he went thru the process. Check with him too. Rod Sent from [1]Outlook References 1. 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by gonancy＠juno.com 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Church kids bus broken down I-5 South of San Clemente
by Himes, Terry (397C) 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

I actually passed you just as the cop pulled up. No 24 hr parts store that I know of. Best to I hole up until tomorrow I guess. Sent from Earth. On Jul 31, 2016 9:58 PM, Nolan <nolan(a)mortarsprayer.com> wrote: Hello Friends, My children are on the way home from a gathering of 5000 kids in San Diego. They are at a Carl's JR East of I5 just South of San Clemente. My son is trying to get them rolling again while they wait for a service truck. Does anyone know of an all night parts store nearby that might have alternator belts for a bus? Thank you Nolan I actually passed you just as the cop pulled up. No 24 hr parts store that I know of. Best to I hole up until tomorrow I guess. Sent from Earth. On Jul 31, 2016 9:58 PM, Nolan <nolan(a)mortarsprayer.com> wrote: Hello Friends, My children are on the way home from a gathering of 5000 kids in San Diego. They are at a Carl's JR East of I5 just South of San Clemente. My son is trying to get them rolling again while they wait for a service truck. Does anyone know of an all night parts store nearby that might have alternator belts for a bus? Thank you Nolan

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NPC - Church kids bus broken down I-5 South of San Clemente
by Nolan 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Hello Friends, My children are on the way home from a gathering of 5000 kids in San Diego. They are at a Carl's JR East of I5 just South of San Clemente. My son is trying to get them rolling again while they wait for a service truck. Does anyone know of an all night parts store nearby that might have alternator belts for a bus? Thank you Nolan Hello Friends, My children are on the way home from a gathering of 5000 kids in San Diego. They are at a Carl's JR East of I5 just South of San Clemente. My son is trying to get them rolling again while they wait for a service truck. Does anyone know of an all night parts store nearby that might have alternator belts for a bus? Thank you Nolan

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NPC: WSJ Porsche article
by Charles Engles 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Dear Forum, I offer some excerpts from the WSJ automotive column of Dan Neil from this weekend: "The Sultrier Snarl of the Turbo Porsche Boxster". "As scripture counsels, I am a modest person. So I have never quite shaken the feeling that, maybe, bombing around town in a flashy drop-top sports car was showing off. A bit, don't you think? I mean, there I am with my perfect silver streak, Persol sunglasses and reasonable body-mass index, wheeling oh-so-expertly the 2017 Porsche 718 Boxster S, the snarl of this fine little dragon rending the suburban veil. Arch and artful, smart and fine, the midengine, two-seat Boxster is the company's starter sports car. The 2017 model adds slinkiness with available 18, 19 or 20 inch wheels press-fit into the wheel wells. Fancy schmanzy. I bet a lot of people think, "hey, there's someone who works at a Porsche dealership." Perhaps they think I am what they used to call an available gentleman? Curbside clinicians will diagnose midlife crisis, and they would be spot-on. This look would also work well for the owner of a chain of hair salons. But some, a cultivated few, will cup an ear, waiting to hear the new turbocharged Boxster under way. They will note the car's more concussive idle-the flat-four engine inherently has more of a discernible pulse than the previous six, even a bit of VW chuff-overdubbed with the distinctive chinning of the Porsche's valvetrain. And cooling fans, lots of fans. Perhaps these observers will linger over the sound of me romping it, all flourishing tom-toms and tenor trombones pitching up to the satisfyingly instant first-to-second upshift, over 7,000 revs Not loud, not furious, but murderously precise and sultry. After a moment, I expect these connoisseurs will approve. Then they can go back to hating me. ------So,yeah, turbochargers. Trouble is ,turbos sap energy from the engine's exhaust-gas stream, which means less sound pressure, less of an aural presence. In a word: volume. There will be purists who walk away from this vastly fast, quicker, roundly superior Boxster only because they prefer the dinosaur trill of the previous engine. Here is where Porsche's engineering and my Amish sense of modesty meet. Thanks to a lot of clever engineering-including an acoustic channel from the engine bay to just above the driver's left shoulder-the Boxster S sounds much more fierce from the driver's seat than it does outside the car.. As my wife drove off in it, I realized how short a distance the sound carried. There is a pretty huge difference in gestalt. You know what? I am fine with a technical outcome that allows the driver's experience to be rich and vivid, without unduly imposing on those around him. The problem with driving an aggressively loud open-top sports car is that, when people look around for the jerk, they can easily see you. Oops, sorry. Please, return to your outdoor memorial service. " Warmest regards, Chuck Engles Dear Forum, I offer some excerpts from the WSJ automotive column of Dan Neil from this weekend: "The Sultrier Snarl of the Turbo Porsche Boxster". "As scripture counsels, I am a modest person. So I have never quite shaken the feeling that, maybe, bombing around town in a flashy drop-top sports car was showing off. A bit, don't you think? I mean, there I am with my perfect silver streak, Persol sunglasses and reasonable body-mass index, wheeling oh-so-expertly the 2017 Porsche 718 Boxster S, the snarl of this fine little dragon rending the suburban veil. Arch and artful, smart and fine, the midengine, two-seat Boxster is the company's starter sports car. The 2017 model adds slinkiness with available 18, 19 or 20 inch wheels press-fit into the wheel wells. Fancy schmanzy. I bet a lot of people think, "hey, there's someone who works at a Porsche dealership." Perhaps they think I am what they used to call an available gentleman? Curbside clinicians will diagnose midlife crisis, and they would be spot-on. This look would also work well for the owner of a chain of hair salons. But some, a cultivated few, will cup an ear, waiting to hear the new turbocharged Boxster under way. They will note the car's more concussive idle--the flat-four engine inherently has more of a discernible pulse than the previous six, even a bit of VW chuff--overdubbed with the distinctive chinning of the Porsche's valvetrain. And cooling fans, lots of fans. Perhaps these observers will linger over the sound of me romping it, all flourishing tom-toms and tenor trombones pitching up to the satisfyingly instant first-to-second upshift, over 7,000 revs Not loud, not furious, but murderously precise and sultry. After a moment, I expect these connoisseurs will approve. Then they can go back to hating me. ------So,yeah, turbochargers. Trouble is ,turbos sap energy from the engine's exhaust-gas stream, which means less sound pressure, less of an aural presence. In a word: volume. There will be purists who walk away from this vastly fast, quicker, roundly superior Boxster only because they prefer the dinosaur trill of the previous engine. Here is where Porsche's engineering and my Amish sense of modesty meet. Thanks to a lot of clever engineering--including an acoustic channel from the engine bay to just above the driver's left shoulder--the Boxster S sounds much more fierce from the driver's seat than it does outside the car.. As my wife drove off in it, I realized how short a distance the sound carried. There is a pretty huge difference in gestalt. You know what? I am fine with a technical outcome that allows the driver's experience to be rich and vivid, without unduly imposing on those around him. The problem with driving an aggressively loud open-top sports car is that, when people look around for the jerk, they can easily see you. Oops, sorry. Please, return to your outdoor memorial service. " Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

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