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Monterey Motorsport Reuinion Trackside BBQ - Saturday 8/20/2016
by Garth Rodericks 08 Aug '16

08 Aug '16

Just a reminder to RSVP to me directly if you plan to attend... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Monterey Motorsports Reunion (formerly the "Monterey Historics") is fast approaching. All Pantera people and fellow gearheads are invited to my annual trackside BBQ at Laguna Seca, immediately following the races on Saturday, 8/20. If you'd like to relax and visit with Pantera friends and fellow gearheads after a full day at the races, come by and chill out with a beer, wine, chicken, tri-tip, and other good eats. On the other hand, you could spend an hour sitting in traffic waiting to exit Laguna Seca... Anyway, please email me directly if you're planning to come so I know how much food to buy. Donations gratefully accepted. Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 Time: Immediately following the last race on Saturday Location: Campsite #85 in Can Am Circle (2nd campsite on right as you enter the gate at the top of the hill from Highway 68). This is just up the hill from the corral, so leave your car in the corral and stroll on over to the BBQ. Map: https://app.box.com/s/szp7ay2nerj9pbonxu13 We'll be flying a DeTomaso flag so we're easy to find. See you in Monterey! Garth Just a reminder to RSVP to me directly if you plan to attend... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++ The Monterey Motorsports Reunion (formerly the "Monterey Historics") is fast approaching. All Pantera people and fellow gearheads are invited to my annual trackside BBQ at Laguna Seca, immediately following the races on Saturday, 8/20. If you'd like to relax and visit with Pantera friends and fellow gearheads after a full day at the races, come by and chill out with a beer, wine, chicken, tri-tip, and other good eats. On the other hand, you could spend an hour sitting in traffic waiting to exit Laguna Seca... Anyway, please email me directly if you're planning to come so I know how much food to buy. Donations gratefully accepted. Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 Time: Immediately following the last race on Saturday Location: Campsite #85 in Can Am Circle (2nd campsite on right as you enter the gate at the top of the hill from Highway 68). This is just up the hill from the corral, so leave your car in the corral and stroll on over to the BBQ. Map: [1]https://app.box.com/s/szp7ay2nerj9pbonxu13 We'll be flying a DeTomaso flag so we're easy to find. See you in Monterey! Garth References Visible links 1. https://app.box.com/s/szp7ay2nerj9pbonxu13 Hidden links: 3. https://app.box.com/s/szp7ay2nerj9pbonxu13 4. https://app.box.com/s/szp7ay2nerj9pbonxu13

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73 Pantera L at Cats Exotics follow up and Ford GT
by Matt 08 Aug '16

08 Aug '16

I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the detailing shop. The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since they were closed. He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing Lambos! So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back for a look next week. He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they all?),which may explain the detailing. They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and some other speciality cars too. Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into a bank vault. I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he filled me in on the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They sell between 15-30 cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim to be one of the biggest Lambo dealers around. He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his heart for Panteras though. He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's purchasing soon. Stay tuned. John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras right now. Duh! But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market ,who knows?". They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford GT in Gulf livery. So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics yet so please let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another way to post. Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this week. Matt 3584 http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso- pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375 I went to go inspect the car today. It was next door in the detailing shop. The sales guy, John Zuberek, could not gain access since they were closed. He reminded me of Tom Cruise in Risky Business, dealing Lambos! So he is going to email me when it's done and I can go back for a look next week. He also said they have an interested buyer(don't they all?),which may explain the detailing. They must have 20 Lamborghini's just that I could see and some other speciality cars too. Millions of dollars worth of cars. I felt like I walked into a bank vault. I felt a little out of my comfort zone but we talked and he filled me in on the different Lambo models and car stuff in general.They sell between 15-30 cars a month and cater to Lambo buyers primarily. They claim to be one of the biggest Lambo dealers around. He said the owner, Roy Cats, has a special place in his heart for Panteras though. He indicated Roy had recently found another car he's purchasing soon. Stay tuned. John also said they feel the market is surging for Panteras right now. Duh! But in the same breath he added "it's like the stock market ,who knows?". They did have a car I would take over all the rest though, a 2006 Ford GT in Gulf livery. So I took a few pics for you. I haven't tried attaching pics yet so please let me know PM if they don't show up and I'll find another way to post. Let you know what I find out about the Pantera later this week. Matt 3584 [1]http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso- pantera-luxury-lynnwood-wa-id-14348375 References 1. http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/1973-detomaso-pantera-luxury-lyn…

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Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry)
by Charles Engles 07 Aug '16

07 Aug '16

Dear Asa, I do know that Larry Stock's high speed aero mods seem to include a belly pan when I reviewed the double secret pictures he kindly sent me. Perhaps Larry might comment. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:56 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry) Yes, and somebody found it and returned it. If I recall correctly, he lost his deck lid due to a hinge pin that came out. After that, most of us drilled our pins for clips or safety wire. Here is an example from mine when I drilled for cotter pins: http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Item id=57&g2_itemId=5517 This should prevent losing the deck lid entirely as long as the hinges stay intact. However, it might be a good idea, like what Dan was eluding to, to have some kind of back-up in place like a thick bungee cord under the deck lid in case it unlatches. Make it short enough that the deck-lid doesn't come up any more than a few inches. Didn't somebody try a belly-pan under the rear of car at one time? I thought I remember somebody trying that but don't remember any conclusions. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** http://w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 8/6/2016 4:00 PM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote: > I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck lid. I think Mad Dog lost his too. > >> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney<dan(a)excaliburre.com> wrote: >> >> As one who does drive at very high speed I can tell you the front hood >> does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta, which has two custom hood vents >> behind the radiator. It has rubber straps to keep it from getting too >> high, while also letting the air escape. >> Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of upward pressure on the rear deck >> lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck lids (one in a somewhat famous >> incident along the Silver State Challenge route). >> Weave reinforced the hinge pins and louvers are on the drawing board. >> Iave also noticed the car settles down significantly once the rear deck >> lid is gone. At first I didnat realize why the rear was finally >> settling down and holding the ground, until the end of the route when I >> walked around and noticed the deck lid was gone. >> >> Dan >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7752 / Virus Database: 4633/12763 - Release Date: > 08/06/16 > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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use sight glass in AC that has been retrofitted to 134a?
by Pantdino 07 Aug '16

07 Aug '16

After switching the AC system to 134a, do you use the sight glass in the dryer or go by the pressure at the low pressure port like with modern cars? Sorry, but I don't recall what I learned several years ago when I switched the system over. Jim Oddie After switching the AC system to 134a, do you use the sight glass in the dryer or go by the pressure at the low pressure port like with modern cars? Sorry, but I don't recall what I learned several years ago when I switched the system over. Jim Oddie

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Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry)
by Dan F. Courtney 07 Aug '16

07 Aug '16

As one who does drive at very high speed I can tell you the front hood does lift at least 2” on “The Beast”, which has two custom hood vents behind the radiator. It has rubber straps to keep it from getting too high, while also letting the air escape. Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of upward pressure on the rear deck lids. I’ve lost two fiberglass deck lids (one in a somewhat famous incident along the Silver State Challenge route). We’ve reinforced the hinge pins and louvers are on the drawing board. I’ve also noticed the car settles down significantly once the rear deck lid is gone. At first I didn’t realize why the rear was finally settling down and holding the ground, until the end of the route when I walked around and noticed the deck lid was gone. Dan As one who does drive at very high speed I can tell you the front hood does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta, which has two custom hood vents behind the radiator. It has rubber straps to keep it from getting too high, while also letting the air escape. Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of upward pressure on the rear deck lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck lids (one in a somewhat famous incident along the Silver State Challenge route). Weave reinforced the hinge pins and louvers are on the drawing board. Iave also noticed the car settles down significantly once the rear deck lid is gone. At first I didnat realize why the rear was finally settling down and holding the ground, until the end of the route when I walked around and noticed the deck lid was gone. Dan

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Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry)
by Dan Courtney 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

mAD pUPPY hAS lOST eVERYTHING, iNCLUDING hIS bRAIN, aLONG tHAT sTRETCH. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Scott Couchman <scottcouchman(a)yahoo.com> </div><div>Date:08/06/2016 4:00 PM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: "Dan F. Courtney" <dan(a)excaliburre.com> </div><div>Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry) </div><div> </div>I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck lid. I think Mad Dog lost his too. > On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney <dan(a)excaliburre.com> wrote: > > As one who does drive at very high speed I can tell you the front hood > does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta, which has two custom hood vents > behind the radiator. It has rubber straps to keep it from getting too > high, while also letting the air escape. > Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of upward pressure on the rear deck > lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck lids (one in a somewhat famous > incident along the Silver State Challenge route). > Weave reinforced the hinge pins and louvers are on the drawing board. > Iave also noticed the car settles down significantly once the rear deck > lid is gone. At first I didnat realize why the rear was finally > settling down and holding the ground, until the end of the route when I > walked around and noticed the deck lid was gone. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. mAD pUPPY hAS lOST eVERYTHING, iNCLUDING hIS bRAIN, aLONG tHAT sTRETCH. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Couchman Date:08/06/2016 4:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "Dan F. Courtney" Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Has anyone researched hood vent designs? (Dave Londry) I was planning to run the Silver State without the deck lid. I think Mad Dog lost his too. > On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Dan F. Courtney <dan(a)excaliburre.com> wrote: > > As one who does drive at very high speed I can tell you the front hood > does lift at least 2a on aThe Beasta, which has two custom hood vents > behind the radiator. It has rubber straps to keep it from getting too > high, while also letting the air escape. > Also, over 160 mph there is a ton of upward pressure on the rear deck > lids. Iave lost two fiberglass deck lids (one in a somewhat famous > incident along the Silver State Challenge route). > Weave reinforced the hinge pins and louvers are on the drawing board. > Iave also noticed the car settles down significantly once the rear deck > lid is gone. At first I didnat realize why the rear was finally > settling down and holding the ground, until the end of the route when I > walked around and noticed the deck lid was gone. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Has anyone researched hood vent designs?
by Rod Kunishige 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

Does anyone have access to Autodesk Flow Analysis does exposes air flows of models? <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> Does anyone have access to Autodesk Flow Analysis does exposes air flows of models? References Visible links Hidden links: 2. http://aka.ms/weboutlook

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Re: [DeTomaso] Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)
by P6746＠aol.com 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

The only car I recognize is Mecum #244447 which I believe is Clark & Wilma Hamm's 74L. Bob Reid The only car I recognize is Mecum #244447 which I believe is Clark & Wilma Hamm's 74L. Bob Reid

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Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)
by Julian Kift 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

It's slow on the list and I've just returned from an afternoon at the Hot August Nights auction now run by Motorsports Auction Group (MAG) after BJ blew Reno off (literally). It seemed there were a lot of no sales, those cars that did sell (of cars that would be of interest to me) seemed mostly well bought. No Pantera's and as expected a lot of hot rods, which are very much an individual taste IMO, usually coveted most by the guy that built it more than anyone else!. Dave Kindig and his sidekick were there with the GM Futureliner (feature lot) a 60' Caddy and an F100. I have to say the quality of the workmanship and final finish was impressive. On to upcoming auctions and the Pantera content as there's a 'Plethora of Pantera's' coming up for sale in Monterey in a couple weeks. Yes I purposely put 'pride' aside as last time all those Southern cats got together they stirred up a hornets nest, but also because when you look up a group of Panther's (not withstanding they are solitary felines) they would be a 'leap' and not a pride! You wouldn't believe the hits I got for a group of Cougars....... Anyway enough of the multiplicity of big cats and onto the multiples of Pantera's coming up for auction; Mecum seems to have the 'leap' on all the other auctions with six Pantera's on the lot list; https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/ https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/ https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/ https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/ https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ <https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/>None of the other major auction houses had any De Tomaso models listed. Julian It's slow on the list and I've just returned from an afternoon at the Hot August Nights auction now run by Motorsports Auction Group (MAG) after BJ blew Reno off (literally). It seemed there were a lot of no sales, those cars that did sell (of cars that would be of interest to me) seemed mostly well bought. No Pantera's and as expected a lot of hot rods, which are very much an individual taste IMO, usually coveted most by the guy that built it more than anyone else!. Dave Kindig and his sidekick were there with the GM Futureliner (feature lot) a 60' Caddy and an F100. I have to say the quality of the workmanship and final finish was impressive. On to upcoming auctions and the Pantera content as there's a 'Plethora of Pantera's' coming up for sale in Monterey in a couple weeks. Yes I purposely put 'pride' aside as last time all those Southern cats got together they stirred up a hornets nest, but also because when you look up a group of Panther's (not withstanding they are solitary felines) they would be a 'leap' and not a pride! You wouldn't believe the hits I got for a group of Cougars....... Anyway enough of the multiplicity of big cats and onto the multiples of Pantera's coming up for auction; Mecum seems to have the 'leap' on all the other auctions with six Pantera's on the lot list; [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/ [2]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/ [3]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/ [5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/ [6]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ None of the other major auction houses had any De Tomaso models listed. Julian References Visible links 1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/ 2. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/ 3. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ 4. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/ 5. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/ 6. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ Hidden links: 8. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/

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Re: [DeTomaso] Auctions (Hot August Nights & Monterey)
by Will Kooiman 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

Wow. Do they really expect $130,000 to $170,000 for each of these? On 8/6/16, 12:18 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift" <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > It's slow on the list and I've just returned from > an afternoon at the Hot August Nights auction now run by Motorsports > Auction Group (MAG) after BJ blew Reno off (literally). It seemed there > were a lot of no sales, those cars that did sell (of cars that would be > of interest to me) seemed mostly well bought. No Pantera's and as > expected a lot of hot rods, which are very much an individual taste > IMO, usually coveted most by the guy that built it more than anyone > else!. Dave Kindig and his sidekick were there with the GM Futureliner > (feature lot) a 60' Caddy and an F100. I have to say the quality > of the workmanship and final finish was impressive. > On to upcoming auctions and the Pantera content as there's a 'Plethora > of Pantera's' coming up for sale in Monterey in a couple weeks. Yes I > purposely put 'pride' aside as last time all those Southern cats got > together they stirred up a hornets nest, but also because when you look > up a group of Panther's (not withstanding they are solitary > felines) they would be a 'leap' and not a pride! You wouldn't believe > the hits I got for a group of Cougars....... Anyway enough of the > multiplicity of big cats and onto the multiples of Pantera's coming up > for auction; > Mecum seems to have the 'leap' on all the other auctions with six > Pantera's on the lot list; > [1]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > [2]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > [3]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > [4]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/ > [5]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/ > [6]https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ > None of the other major auction houses had any De Tomaso models listed. > Julian > >References > > Visible links > 1. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244447/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > 2. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244469/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > 3. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244585/1974-detomaso-pantera/ > 4. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-259989/1972-detomaso-pantera-l/ > 5. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-260073/1971-detomaso-pantera/ > 6. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ > > Hidden links: > 8. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-244308/1972-detomaso-pantera/ >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >approve the archiving of list messages.

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