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Re: [DeTomaso] NPC-te$t
by Charles Engles 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

Dear Matt, Egad! A satisfied forum member with high standards! I am proud that you appreciate our collective grammar, spelling and punctuation skills, although I am prone to run-on sentences from time to time. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:20 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC-te$t I'm am so glad this forum is free. Best forum ever. Passion! Drama! Pretty good spelling and punctuation! You can't BUY entertainment like this! Have a good day everybody, Matt (forum experience not ruined a bit) Wells

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Re: [DeTomaso] Heater Vent Registers
by Charles Engles 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Dear Roydon, Good news: yes the Pantera dash vent registers come from seventies Ford vehicles Bad news: I can't remember if they were same vintage Thunderbirds or another model Good news: someone else who knows the answer will see this. Stiff upper lip, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of MyCars Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 6:37 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Heater Vent Registers Hello, Anyone know if the heater vent registers were used in other cars (ford or italian). I need to get 3, mine always fall out when I apply the gas. Thanks Roydon _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Paint Patterns: Rockers, Valance, and Corners
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Recently I asked the group for photos with the subject being (Paint Patterns) the Rockers, Valance and Corners. While I have received more content to add, here is the initial (draft) page on the subject: http://www.detomasoregistry.org//Members/TechInfo/PaintPatterns.asp <http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/TechInfo/PaintPatterns.asp> First are some stock examples, followed by some owner designs. (Text added later) How the corners on a number of cars have been treated is interesting, and where the "waistline" appears varies. If you have some photos to share on the subject, send them now, as I have one last batch to process and include. If your photos don't currently appear, they may be in the last batch. Thanks to all that shared some content. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp Recently I asked the group for photos with the subject being (Paint Patterns) the Rockers, Valance and Corners. While I have received more content to add, here is the initial (draft) page on the subject: [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org//Members/TechInfo/PaintPatterns.asp First are some stock examples, followed by some owner designs. (Text added later) How the corners on a number of cars have been treated is interesting, and where the "waistline" appears varies. If you have some photos to share on the subject, send them now, as I have one last batch to process and include. If your photos don't currently appear, they may be in the last batch. Thanks to all that shared some content. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/TechInfo/PaintPatterns.asp 2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp

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Just a thought
by Mike Trusty 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Yes, I'm still alive. I happen to have a strip of smooth paving that is 4,000 feet long and is from 90' to 150' wide. Also a couple hundred acres of mowed grass. Perfect for car shows. Mile long lake with swimming, fishing, etc. Smaller fish infested pond. Indoor car storage space for maybe a hundred cars. Can land your plane here if you want. Even a cavern if you like exploring. Set up a shooting range if there is interest in that sort of thing. I was just thinking with a few cones to keep speeds logical(lower 3 digit area) a few of us could have a pretty pleasant weekend. Large observation decks with seating for maybe thirty or so and a pool for those not really interested in the noise. If the police show up it will be because they want to look at the cars. All private property. If you don't believe a place like this exists in Northwest Arkansas just as Bob Radefeld. The only rules are no POCA trash talk and you are forbidden to break your Pantera. Maybe in the early fall and not interfere with other club events? Just dreaming out loud. Haven't mentioned this to wife(boss) so may get nixed before it lives. Mike Trusty Engineering 15119 Gorgeous View Trail Little Rock, AR 72210 501-224-9013 Yes, I'm still alive. I happen to have a strip of smooth paving that is 4,000 feet long and is from 90' to 150' wide. Also a couple hundred acres of mowed grass. Perfect for car shows. Mile long lake with swimming, fishing, etc. Smaller fish infested pond. Indoor car storage space for maybe a hundred cars. Can land your plane here if you want. Even a cavern if you like exploring. Set up a shooting range if there is interest in that sort of thing. I was just thinking with a few cones to keep speeds logical(lower 3 digit area) a few of us could have a pretty pleasant weekend. Large observation decks with seating for maybe thirty or so and a pool for those not really interested in the noise. If the police show up it will be because they want to look at the cars. All private property. If you don't believe a place like this exists in Northwest Arkansas just as Bob Radefeld. The only rules are no POCA trash talk and you are forbidden to break your Pantera. Maybe in the early fall and not interfere with other club events? Just dreaming out loud. Haven't mentioned this to wife(boss) so may get nixed before it lives. Mike Trusty Engineering 15119 Gorgeous View Trail Little Rock, AR 72210 501-224-9013

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Insulation material?
by Jerry Knotts 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but the deck was really hot to the touch. Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but would like the real protection of an insulator. Thanks in advance to the "collective", jerry knotts

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 31
by Dave 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

I hauled a Pantera on a big 5,000lb backhoe trailer once. IndyDave -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:00 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 31 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."

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Re: [DeTomaso] Is Laurie's statement truthful?
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

All, Notice how I haven't said a word about any of this stuff, even when people on opposing sides each choose to throw my name around in an attempt to bolster their respective, opposite arguments? Perhaps others might follow my example in taking the higher road.... Mike All, Notice how I haven't said a word about any of this stuff, even when people on opposing sides each choose to throw my name around in an attempt to bolster their respective, opposite arguments? Perhaps others might follow my example in taking the higher road.... Mike

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Is Laurie's statement truthful?
by Larry Finch 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

All, Earlier today the new Profiles Editor, Laurie Basile, posted a rather lengthy email. For someone who just last week talked about being “positive”, “congenial” and “professional”, I found today’s post to exhibit very little of those qualities. But what struck me the strongest was the following written by Laurie: "You may recall how the DeRykes published in a Newsletter that Mike Drew did not intend to run again as Editor of Profiles.” Hmmmm? Is that true? Seems easy enough to research as I happen to have the pertinent 2014 newsletters right here on my desk. Let’s see if I can find where/when such a statement was placed in a newsletter, okay? First mention of the election was in the August, 2014 newsletter on page #12. Boilerplate text from the Bylaws which outlined the term and duties of the officers up for election, followed by a solicitation for candidates. Nothing more. Next mention of the election was in the September, 2014 newsletter on page #9. That page included the candidate statements from VP candidate Mike Burnett and Treasurer candidate Bob Reid. Providing a candidate's statement is required under the Bylaws, but no other statements were submitted nor had any other members been nominated for any of the four open positions. The only mention of the Annual Editor position in September's newsletter was: Annual Editor - Incumbent - Mike Drew, Pantera Club of Northern California (PCNC) No candidates yet (and no Candidate Statements, either - a Bylaws requirement.) Next newsletter election mention was just the ballot included in the November issue. At the time the ballot was sent to the printers, no one had submitted a candidate statement for the Annual Editor position. So the ballot included this - ANNUAL EDITOR Incumbent chose not to run again No new candidate Write-in candidate ——————— Associate Vote ——————— I have personally spoken with my friend Mike Drew and he acknowledges he failed to submit the required statement. Thus Mike, in essence, "chose not to run again" by failing to submit his candidate's statement. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” - ‘Freewill’ by Rush, 1980 I do not know who composed the election ballot (Election committee or the newsletter Editor), but in either case there was not any mis-conduct by the DeRykes, just a ballot that contained a truthful statement; and it was due to a regrettable omission by Mike Drew. Laurie’s statement seemed to imply the DeRykes had purposely lied about Mike Drew’s actions. As outlined above, that is simply not true. If you are a POCA member, you can confirm all this by viewing the cited newsletters which are available for viewing on the new website. Larry All, Earlier today the new Profiles Editor, Laurie Basile, posted a rather lengthy email. For someone who just last week talked about being "positive", "congenial" and "professional", I found today's post to exhibit very little of those qualities. But what struck me the strongest was the following written by Laurie: "You may recall how the DeRykes published in a Newsletter that Mike Drew did not intend to run again as Editor of Profiles." Hmmmm? Is that true? Seems easy enough to research as I happen to have the perti nent 2014 newsletters right here on my desk. Let's see if I can find where/when such a statement was placed in a newsletter, okay? First mention of the election was in the August, 2014 newsletter on page #12. Bo ilerplate text from the Bylaws which outlined the term and duties of the officer s up for election, followed by a solicitation for candidates. Nothing more. Next mention of the election was in the September, 2014 newsletter on page #9. T hat page included the candidate statements from VP candidate Mike Burnett and Tr easurer candidate Bob Reid. Providing a candidate's statement is required under the Bylaws, but no other statements were submitted nor had any other members bee n nominated for any of the four open positions. The only mention of the Annual E ditor position in September's newsletter was: Annual Editor - Incumbent - Mike Drew, Pantera Club of Northern California (PCNC) No candidates yet (and no Candidate Statements, either - a Bylaws requir ement.) Next newsletter election mention was just the ballot included in the November is sue. At the time the ballot was sent to the printers, no one had submitted a can didate statement for the Annual Editor position. So the ballot included this - ANNUAL EDITOR Incumbent chose not to run again No new candidate Write-in candidate -------------- Associate Vote -------------- I have personally spoken with my friend Mike Drew and he acknowledges he failed to submit the required statement. Thus Mike, in essence, "chose not to run again" by failing to submit his candida te's statement. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choi ce." - `Freewill' by Rush, 1980 I do not know who composed the election ballot (Election committee or the newsle tter Editor), but in either case there was not any mis-conduct by the DeRykes, j ust a ballot that contained a truthful statement; and it was due to a regrettabl e omission by Mike Drew. Laurie's statement seemed to imply the DeRykes had purposely lied about Mike Dre w's actions. As outlined above, that is simply not true. If you are a POCA member, you can confirm all this by viewing the cited newsletters which are available for viewing on the new website. Larry

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Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Insurance
by Nathan Giles 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

I moved everything over to Classic. Drew there is active on the FordGTforum.com and has done alot of the guys right. https://www.classicins.com/ Nathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reilly" <reillyms(a)live.com> To: shawkins777(a)comcast.net Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:20:16 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Insurance I think that’s been covered quite a bit but happy to throw in what I’m doing. As a veteran I have USAA and they partner with American Collectors so I use them. Agreed value of $93K for my mostly stock 74 L. I’m happy with the rate and service and have been with USAA for about 30 years. Although I keep seeing six figure auction results so I may need to adjust. Mike Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: shawkins777(a)comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:38 AM Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is This The DeTomaso Mail List? Yes you are, what do you want to talk about. How about how much is everyone insuring their Pantera for? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reilly" <reillyms(a)live.com> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:32:29 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Is This The DeTomaso Mail List? Hi all. Am I on the correct list for discussion about DeTomaso cars with folks helping each other out to keep them running and to enjoy them? All I seem to see are posts that look like something from a bad reality TV show : ( Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Is This The DeTomaso Mail List?
by Mike Reilly 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Hi all. Am I on the correct list for discussion about DeTomaso cars with folks helping each other out to keep them running and to enjoy them? All I seem to see are posts that look like something from a bad reality TV show : ( Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Hi all. Am I on the correct list for discussion about DeTomaso cars with folks helping each other out to keep them running and to enjoy them? All I seem to see are posts that look like something from a bad reality TV show : ( Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986

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