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Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by Dennis Valdez 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Thanks Mike, So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? Thanks, Dennis > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Dennis, > > You got it exactly right! Those two lights cover those three functions. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the >> Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as >> it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs >> are suspect. >> The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general >> hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a >> brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these? >> <FullSizeRender.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] IMPEACH
by gonancy＠juno.com 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Personally I'm sick of reading and hearing ( my husband is Jack DeRyke's son, so I hear A LOT ) about Shortt. POCA use to be a pleasant, friendly club. Tired of this regime, I wish for the old days, GoNancy ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216

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Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

In a message dated 6/28/16 7:49:15 PM, sjcarguy60(a)yahoo.com writes: > So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses > to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. > >>>Good! > >Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the > pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might > come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. > >>>Be grateful for that at least! > > >I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new > from looking at them last year. > >>>Stock pads suck. While you were in there it would have been very beneficial to replace them with Porterfield pads. > >The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines > >>>Most people just tuck them out of the way and tie them to the other harness wires... > > and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them > around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new > metallic brake lines. > >>>It only takes one. There are two white/black wires which come from the warning light and go to the sensors on the pads. If the pad wears enough for the sensor to contact the surface of the disc, it completes the ground and illuminates the light. Sounds like perhaps one of your wires is now in close proximity to a metal (as opposed to the old rubber) hose and that is making the electrical connection. I would suggest removing the wires from the flex hoses, taping the ends with electrical tape, and then tucking them away and securing them to some other wires. (Alternately, if you really have stock pads that still have the tabs, you could always just plug the wires back into the pads!) > > >I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit > and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? > >>>Just isolate them better and you should be fine..... Cheers! Mike P.S. Do you have Bill Taylor's fantastic electrical diagrams? They are available for download from www.panteraplace.com. I will send you the relevant diagram separately.... In a message dated 6/28/16 7:49:15 PM, sjcarguy60(a)yahoo.com writes: So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. >>>Good! >Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. >>>Be grateful for that at least! >I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. >>>Stock pads suck. While you were in there it would have been very beneficial to replace them with Porterfield pads. >The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines >>>Most people just tuck them out of the way and tie them to the other harness wires... > and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. >>>It only takes one. There are two white/black wires which come from the warning light and go to the sensors on the pads. If the pad wears enough for the sensor to contact the surface of the disc, it completes the ground and illuminates the light. Sounds like perhaps one of your wires is now in close proximity to a metal (as opposed to the old rubber) hose and that is making the electrical connection. I would suggest removing the wires from the flex hoses, taping the ends with electrical tape, and then tucking them away and securing them to some other wires. (Alternately, if you really have stock pads that still have the tabs, you could always just plug the wires back into the pads!) >I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? >>>Just isolate them better and you should be fine..... Cheers! Mike P.S. Do you have Bill Taylor's fantastic electrical diagrams? They are available for download from www.panteraplace.com. I will send you the relevant diagram separately....

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Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by Dennis Valdez 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Hi Folks, Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs are suspect. The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these? Hi Folks, Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs are suspect. The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these?

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Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Impeach
by marshall smith 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

Yes it is John. We are better than this, believe me. Marshall Smith President, San Diego Panteras -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/28/16, John Bennett <jbennett111(a)zoho.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Impeach To: "gonancy" <gonancy(a)juno.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 1:10 PM This is highly unprofessional. Sent using [1]Zoho Mail ---- On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:37:41 -0700 <gonancy(a)juno.com>wrote ---- IMPEACH SHORTTY! RECLAIM POCA, or whatever you want to call it now. I don't know who voted for this guy, but you should be ASHAMED! I WILL BE THE NEW EMPRESS OF THE NEW AND IMPROVED De TOMASO REGIME! ALL HAIL EMPRESS GoNANCY! ( I can't be any worse, can I? Besides, I'm holding the OLD Profiles editor hostage) Is Shortt gonna sue me now? ____________________________________________________________ Fivebreak.com 40 Years of the Same Photo Together, But The Last One is Incredible [2]http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5771e334d859863346a63st02vu c _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://www.zoho.com/mail/ 2. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5771e334d859863346a63st02vuc 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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VIN 6704 For Sale At Park Place, Bellevue, WA / $135K / Not in the Registry
by Mike Thomas 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

The ad for 6704 at Park Place Motors, Bellevue, WA is at the link. It is not currently shown in Chuck's registry when I search L models by VIN, nor is it on the PNW roster. Sweet, but expensive. Gooned it up with the Nox bottles IMHO. http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/995/874TH PNND06704 Does anybody know the car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 The ad for 6704 at Park Place Motors, Bellevue, WA is at the link. It is not currently shown in Chuck's registry when I search L models by VIN, nor is it on the PNW roster. Sweet, but expensive. Gooned it up with the Nox bottles IMHO. [1]http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/9 95/874THPNND06704 Does anybody know the car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 References 1. http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/995/874T…

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Re: [DeTomaso] VIN 6704 For Sale At Park Place, Bellevue, WA / $135K / Not in the Registry
by bill gaino 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

That car was featured in the PI magazine , the same issue as mine too! It belonged to a Black gentalman whose father was in the collision repair business. Summer 2006 issue 127. It is on the cover. Great car! Bill 1362 https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fref=ts If you want it slick. www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas(a)comcast.net> >Sent: Jun 27, 2016 9:02 PM >To: 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >Subject: [DeTomaso] VIN 6704 For Sale At Park Place, Bellevue, WA / $135K / Not in the Registry > > The ad for 6704 at Park Place Motors, Bellevue, WA is at the link. It > is not currently shown in Chuck's registry when I search L models by > VIN, nor is it on the PNW roster. > > Sweet, but expensive. Gooned it up with the Nox bottles IMHO. > > > [1]http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/9 > 95/874THPNND06704 > > > Does anybody know the car? > > > Mike Thomas > > Pres., Panteras Northwest > > Yellow '74 #6328 > >References > > 1. http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/995/874T…

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great guy
by brad freeman 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

hi Pantera community i wanted to share a quick note, i bought my 71-4 1/2 yrs ago and when i got it home i started working on it after all it needed some loving attention to it, this is when a marine mechanic started discovering the make up of a truly awesome car. Only one obstacle for a guy who is partially disable because of a bad auto accident some 5yrs earlier, i just could not work on it the way i could have before i was injured. i wasted a good bit of money on mechanics(supposedly) that only turned out to be parts changers. Finally one day i met a man that understood the function and working of my prize car,he has fixed a number of issues that i had and even things i didn’t even know were wrong. His working knowledge,talent and common sense approach to repairs on my car has cause me to admire him. I have tried to pay him on a number of times and still he will not let me. He tells me I’m his brother and that he is doing it for the car it deserves it. I feel that i am blessed to call him my friend both him and his wife are a joy to spend time with. Hope you don’t mind me saying but if you get the opportunity to meet Rob and his wonderful Mrs Kathy you will discover a rare breed just like the car we both love the PANTERA. Rob thank you for replacing and solving light issues on my car inside and out you ROCK dude!!

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Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera Person John Bennett
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

In a message dated 6/27/16 6:53:23 PM, richard(a)richardgreenblum.com writes: > Larry is certainly one of the experts, but as I understand it, there were > several factory produced US GTS's that did not receive "GT" serial > numbers. Mike Drew probably knows the story and numbers. > > >>>Not true. There is some confusion over the number of US-market GTS Panteras built, because they were built in two categories--49-state cars and California cars. 98 of the former and 52 of the latter were built, for a total of 150, all of which had "GT" in the serial number. It's perhaps true that some enterprising dealers may have chosen to paint an L-model Pantera as a GTS and fit it with the gee-gaws like the flares, etc. but I don't know of any specifically. In any case, such a car wouldn't be considered a true GTS any more than if the dealer chose to put big wheels and flares on it and call it a Group 4 race car. What is true is that the Euro-spec GTS Panteras did not have "GT" in the serial number, but such cars have numerous differences from their US counterparts, and in stock configuration are very easy to distinguish. Mike In a message dated 6/27/16 6:53:23 PM, richard(a)richardgreenblum.com writes: Larry is certainly one of the experts, but as I understand it, there were several factory produced US GTS's that did not receive "GT" serial numbers. Mike Drew probably knows the story and numbers. >>>Not true. There is some confusion over the number of US-market GTS Panteras built, because they were built in two categories--49-state cars and California cars. 98 of the former and 52 of the latter were built, for a total of 150, all of which had "GT" in the serial number. It's perhaps true that some enterprising dealers may have chosen to paint an L-model Pantera as a GTS and fit it with the gee-gaws like the flares, etc. but I don't know of any specifically. In any case, such a car wouldn't be considered a true GTS any more than if the dealer chose to put big wheels and flares on it and call it a Group 4 race car. What is true is that the Euro-spec GTS Panteras did not have "GT" in the serial number, but such cars have numerous differences from their US counterparts, and in stock configuration are very easy to distinguish. Mike

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Kurt and the Copyright issue
by Larry Finch 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

All, The new host of this email list, Kurt, has been threatened with legal action regarding the copyright on postings made to this forum when it was hosted by POCA. I attach to this email a screen capture from the email list when it was still hosted by POCA. Note the following contained in the first section: “Content of this email list is not copyrighted by any individual or entity, including POCA.” I think that pretty much means there is no legal standing for copyright-violation lawsuit. Larry All, The new host of this email list, Kurt, has been threatened with legal action regarding the copyright on postings made to this forum when it was hosted by POCA. I attach to this email a screen capture from the email list when it was still hosted by POCA. Note the following contained in the first section: "Content of this email list is not copyrighted by any individual or entity, including POCA." I think that pretty much means there is no legal standing for copyright-violation lawsuit. Larry [cid:DA19171C-1CD2-45DB-969D-48385175B9A6@attlocal.net]

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